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Firewall Pad of Choice???

Started by Tinkerr, December 15, 2018, 04:02:19 PM

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Tinkerr

I need to purchase a new Firewall Pad. I did a search, most relevant thread was 2012, links don't work 6 years later and I'm hoping for some improvements. Anybody have suggestions for replacement pad. I've seen listings for molded pads $175 and other pads for $50 I'm looking for the best fit and finish. Thanks

169INDY

Molded all the way. I just removed a cheap flat pad & got the $175 model you looked at and it is WAY better than that flat junk, I gave it a short thought on searching for a parting out car to source a original but that is difficult and kinda like shopping for a used diaper after all these years the pads just do not survive the test of time,,,If I remember I contacted mfr & they did not sell direct, So I made sure I used a vendor selling the best molded unit and confirmed that is what was being purchased then low & behold, they drop shipped it from the Mfr. I can dig out the info when I get home.


JIM
Jim
68 SS/RS L35 Th-400 LOS
69 Pace Car L48 Th-350 LOS
68 Z28 M21 LOS

68camaroz28

Here you go and they have a sale on for Xmas but not sure if this is covered in the sale but worth the check.
http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/23875/1967-1968-1969-Camaro-%26-Firebird-Molded-Firewall-Pad-OE-Style-Without-AC/
I had a NOS one to put in our 68 which was purchased in 1979. And yes, even with the repro molded ones there is a huge difference but its the best available.
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

69Z28-RS

Quote from: 169INDY on December 15, 2018, 04:33:31 PM
Molded all the way. I just removed a cheap flat pad & got the $175 model you looked at and it is WAY better than that flat junk, I gave it a short thought on searching for a parting out car to source a original but that is difficult and kinda like shopping for a used diaper after all these years the pads just do not survive the test of time,,,If I remember I contacted mfr & they did not sell direct, So I made sure I used a vendor selling the best molded unit and confirmed that is what was being purchased then low & behold, they drop shipped it from the Mfr. I can dig out the info when I get home.
JIM

..."source a original but that is difficult and kinda like shopping for a used diaper after all these years'...   

cracking up here over this description, although it's not far off...  :)
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

janobyte

To add, mist some cheap rubberized undercoating to mock texture. Think it was a Chick recommendation. I thought a real pita to install. Maybe just bad luck. Had to walk away a few times from it. Came out pretty nice though.
68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..

Mike S

 That was in the past thread: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9630.msg70063#msg70063

I have the pad installed and it looks great and close to original. It is not molded but there is so little exposed that I didn't mind, and it conformed to the firewall nicely.


Mike
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

janobyte

And if you can, try to salvage your rubber plugs. The ones I could reuse popped right in,,not so lucky with the ones I purchased, and not a great match vs. The originals.Even with the tool, kept poking through. Referenced alot here for advice. Like I said, maybe just bad luck.
68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..

janobyte

68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..

Hans L

Quote from: Mike S on December 15, 2018, 07:50:38 PM
That was in the past thread: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9630.msg70063#msg70063

I have the pad installed and it looks great and close to original. It is not molded but there is so little exposed that I didn't mind, and it conformed to the firewall nicely.


Mike

I followed the process outlined in the link and was quite pleased with the results.  I originally purchased a molded mat, but didn't like the silver thermal material used (maybe they've updated the design and it's no longer there).   I didn't really have much of an issue installing the cheaper flat Tarmac mat and the rubberized spray thereafter gave it a nice OE look.  The pad insulation is also closer to OE in appearance I thought than the molded pad....my 2 cents. 
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'69 Camaro RS Z/28 Van Nuys Built
'69 Chevelle SS 396 4 Speed
'70 Camaro SS L78

68camaroz28

Quote from: Mike S on December 15, 2018, 07:50:38 PM
That was in the past thread: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9630.msg70063#msg70063

I have the pad installed and it looks great and close to original. It is not molded but there is so little exposed that I didn't mind, and it conformed to the firewall nicely.


Mike
Yes it was Mike and also in that thread was "That may be similar to what Chick used to repair/restore his original pad." LOL as that was a chore trying to repair ours (should have never stored in the attic) where the rubber type material cracked where it was thin in areas. But that was a great idea to take a repro molded pad and try to duplicate the texture. Here are some pics of the NOS one I had that might help others to duplicate.




Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

169INDY


silver thermal material used (maybe they've updated the design and it's no longer there).

Yup it is still there, I trimmed it back (appx 1/16 to 1/8") with tiny seamstress scissors [where you might be able to see it when installed] and really like the "SKINNING" that was suggested in the early (Referenced) post

Thanks for the ideas guys, Great sharing of methods,

JIM
Jim
68 SS/RS L35 Th-400 LOS
69 Pace Car L48 Th-350 LOS
68 Z28 M21 LOS

Tinkerr

I'll order the molded pad. The rubber plugs didn't survive the removal this time, so I'll be looking for some replacements, preferably some good used ones. Thanks for all the responses I really appreciate them.

169INDY

I am sure others here have additional TIPS.
I chose Isopropyl Alcohol as a evaporative lubricant and machined a brass "driver" to Set the fasteners w/o tearing them apart. It contacts the tip and flange of the fastener boot at the same time and prevents the tearing from a blunt driver.

The flat Pad I used to have used a stiff plastic fasteners that was hard & ridged and did not replicate the originals to my satisfaction so I sourced the ones show based on recommendations from  of others here.

I hope y0ou find this helpful,

Jim
Jim
68 SS/RS L35 Th-400 LOS
69 Pace Car L48 Th-350 LOS
68 Z28 M21 LOS

69Z28-RS

That's a perfect insertion tool, Jim...   One could probably make such an insertion tool if one couldn't be purchased.  Even a wooden one would work.   Removing the plugs without damage could also be accomplished with a 'sleeve' type tool from the outside of the firewall (to push in the expanding part of the plug)...
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

manyc

I bought a repo pad the was custom made by Bob Harris at Camaro Specialties.  Looks like he rubber coated one of the better aftermarket ones. Overall I think he did a great job. He does AC and Non-AC versions.


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