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Steering Coupler Nuts

Started by Tinkerr, January 24, 2020, 03:07:14 PM

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Tinkerr

I cleaned up a original steering coupler for a 1968 Camaro, however the nuts and lock washers were missing. I've seen the parts vendors selling replacements in what I believe is gold cadmium plating, zinc plating or a combination of both. What is correct? Thank Paul

Mike S

 On my 05B NOR 67 w/manual steering, the nuts, washers and bolts were unquestionably phosphate.
I will check my 04B LOS 67 with/PS later today.
The repro nuts have a slight radius along the top and bottom and originals are more square. Very easy to spot the difference. 

Mike
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

68camaroz28

Might not help but this our original coupler and hardware restored and when placed on our 68.
https://www.camaros.net/forums/133-build-projects/182584-time-another-68-z-28-restored-54.html
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

Mike S

Chick, 

Your 68 originally had a copper plated bolt on the joint? Must be something for '68 then? Of all the '67 rag joint bolts I have I haven't seen copper. Did 68 use the stamped copper ground like used in '67 manual boxes?

Mike
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

68camaroz28

Never did any research on the issue cause thought I had no reason to do so can't offer much Mike.
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

Camarocards

Mike,

Here are a few pictures of the original refurbished Steering Coupler from my '68. My car was built two weeks after Chick's so it is in line with what has been seen on cars of that time frame. i.e. Copper plated bolt.

Hope this helps,

Bob
Bob
'68 SS L35 01D

Mike S

Hi Bob,
That must be a 67-68 change then. I took a brass brush to my 67 LOS w/PS and it definitely has no copper plating and no signs of zinc either. The P/S ground is different than a manual steering however.

Thanks!
Mike
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

Edgemontvillage

#7
There may be differences between the 4 ply power steering coupler and 7 ply manual regarding hardware however for the PS coupler I've observed, up to the 1969 model year the tall style bolts were used with the MB head marking or sometimes no marking. One was manganese (dark) phosphated and the other copper plated.

Original PS coupler stud hardware showing tall style threaded studs with copper plating and manganese phosphating



68camaroz28

Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

Mike S

It's interesting copper plated and non-plated were used. I wonder if there was a reason both types were used and what determined it, if anything.
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

Camarocards

QuoteIt's interesting copper plated and non-plated were used. I wonder if there was a reason both types were used and what determined it, if anything.

Mike,

I'm just guessing that it may have to do with ensuring a good ground path from the coupler to the steering column.

Chick,

I noticed that both of your nuts are zinc plated and both lock washers are phosphate. If I remember correctly the AIM calls out different nuts and lockwashers. i.e. one side of the coupler, the one that is copper plated, used a zinc plated nut and lockwasher and the other side, used a nut and lockwasher that was phosphated. Maybe a Z/28 used a different combination of nuts and lockwashers???
Bob
'68 SS L35 01D

68camaroz28

Bob, those pictures were taken four years or more before install. I remember differences and will have to review the car.
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

jeffschevelle

To the extent relevant, every single 67 Chevelle I have disassembled (which is north of 25) has had the copper plated bolt.