Assessing value of this car.

[hpaddict]

Let's say this is a real x77. I'm  having trouble assessing the value of this car.   It has a really clean paint job and body work .  But the engine and trans are missing. 

Wondering what some of you value this car at ? Not what you would pay but what you think the car is worth based on what you see in the ad. 

50k?  How far off am I ?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/san-andreas-1969-camaro-28-x77-code/7697596591.html

[william]

Based on the trunk floor, very solid car. Body tag checks out for a VIN in the range N627xxx-N636xxx. Similar to a bud's '68 that sold on BAT for $53k.

Don't buy it with the intention of restoring it. Only needs some interior and engine bay detailing. It's a street machine, enjoy as is.

[David K]

I see an engine that you say is missing. ...

[Sauron327]

I see an engine that you say is missing. ...

Missing the original engine and trannsmission as stated in the ad.
Looks like a solid car for the money. Pay a shop like mine to do body and paint. Now add the extras and you'd be above that price.

[David K]

The "Real Z/28" means nothing and carrys no extra value for the car because the original engine and trans are gone. It's now just a 69 Camaro that's been slightly modified, so you price accordingly to similar ones on the market. Provided it passes the sniff, drive, and acceptable body inspection, $50k should easily leave room to negotiate. Regardless, if you can get the car on a lift, pay the shop for a thorough and underside inspection..... do your due diligence.

[hpaddict]

I see an engine that you say is missing. ...

Missing the original engine and trannsmission as stated in the ad.
Looks like a solid car for the money. Pay a shop like mine to do body and paint. Now add the extras and you'd be above that price.

Where are you located? I'm always in need of a good body/paint shop.

[70L34]

I disagree that a NOM Z/28 has no additional value due to the non original engine. The market says otherwise.

[lynnbilodeau]

Agree.  Obviously not as valuable as one with original engine and trans.  Still a premium over an SS 350.

[Kelley W King]

A real Z28 will also be worth more than plain camaro even with non original drivetrain. COPO and Zl1 cars are out of site and hardly any of them have the original stuff. My Z and my SS both are missing the original engine, I search the orphans often.

[Sauron327]

Missing the original engine and trannsmission as stated in the ad.
Looks like a solid car for the money. Pay a shop like mine to do body and paint. Now add the extras and you'd be above that price.

Where are you located? I'm always in need of a good body/paint shop.

Be best to PM me. Thanks.

[Sauron327]

My friend has our deceased friend's real 10/10 '69Z without the original motor. He's been offered good money for it with the wrong motor. Not for sale.

[MO]

Like anything else; the more desirable the item, the higher the premium.

[RikerZ28]

I also have a 69 X33 without the original motor. It has in it now a 69 427/425 L72. I am always looking in the orphan section for it's missing engine, but like most they probably put the rod through the block 50 years ago. If I was able to find the original block purchase it I don't think I would install it. I can't tell you how much I enjoy this car driving it and tinkering. As for the value, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay.               

[Jonesy]

Im not sure you could get the seller to budge that much off the $65K asking price. It certainly is still a real Z. I agree on the $50K value the way it sits.
I dont even get that arguement at all, that its no longer a real Z because its missing the original engine. Just any other Camaro? I say nope.
It certainly affects the value to me, but its still a Z28.
So whats a 69 Camaro Pace Car without the original engine? No longer a Pace Car??

[David K]

Jersey, since the original engine and transmission are gone, what still makes it a real Z for market value? IMHO, it was a Z when final assembly was completed. And isn't it the engine that makes it a Z?
As said earlier,  what the buyer is willing to pay is all that matters.