1968 Rally Sport grille research

[Steve68]

jw

It seems to me that during the research I was told that CHQ was doing the chroming or providing the chrome grille to suppliers for resale.  I may have it in my notes........will check.

Steve

[jeffschevelle]

I have the 10-1-66, 10-1-67, 10-1-68, 2-15-69, and 6/70 original parts books, as well as the cumulative 1965-1973 superceded numbers index and the cumulative 1965-1973 reverse superceded numbers index.  If you can give me the original number for each component piece you're interested in, I can tell you the exact month and year it was superceded or discontinued, and the replacement no. if there was one.  I'd be happy to help.  Jeff

[Steve68]

Jeff

Thanks for the offer to help.  I assume you mean P&A books when you refer to the parts books.  I also have most of these, and some other period parts books, with the exception of the reverse index.  The research has been ongoing for well over a year now and currently waiting on some info from an individual that should answer any remaining questions.  However, until he does provide that info we welcome any and all input and help that comes our way!  First, have you read the first part of the thread?  The part numbers for the grille and headlight covers are in the first posts and the research is attempting to demonstrate that the grille changed late in the model year from a RS grille with chrome horizontal ribs to all black but the part number (060) for the grille was not changed or superseded.  Next, take a look at your books and see what they show and also see if you find any notes that say anything about "paint as required".  If you do let me know the reference date and the part it refers to.  Thanks again for the interest and help it is really appreciated.

Steve

[KurtS]

We are looking for any later 68 RS cars (non-SS) with original grilles to wrap up this research. Condition is not important, as long as some of the grille is probably original. Preferred build dates of April 68 and later.
Any info would be helpful. Thanks!

[68Z22]

Here is the data base information from my 68 Rally Sport ;
1.A
2.B
3.A
4.A

7.No markins on driver side,Backwards 2 on passenger side
8.N/A (been altered)
9.N/A (been altered)
10.Norwood
11.02D
12.327/275
13.124378N386xxx

Along with my original chrome grill that is still rivited to upper and lower grill mouldings,

1- #3919060 Black Grill still in the box that was purchased around 1983

1-#03919060 Chrome Grill stillin the box that is dated 5/30/96

Mark

[KurtS]

Here's the original survey:

[Oops, didn't see the updated version that Steve posted below.....]

[68Z22]

Correction from my previous post.

1.A

2.B

3.A

4.H

[Steve68]

Thanks Mark for the info.  Here is the updated survey from post 154 which corresponds to Mark's answers.

1.  Does your car currently have an original center grille?
     A. I am positive.
     B. Almost certain it does
     C. Not sure but it appears to be
     D. No
2.  Rivets holding center to upper/lower grilles
     A. Yes
     B. No (Describe – are they nuts & bolts?)
3.  The center grille currently is:
     A. Black with horizontal chrome stripes
     B. Black
4.  My center grille was replaced in:
     A. 1968
     B. 1969
     C. 1970
     D. 1971
     E. 1972
     F. After 1972
     G. Not sure
     H. Never - Go to question 7
5.  The replacement center grille came from:
     A. GM dealership parts department
     B. NPD, Year One, Ricks, Classic Ind, etc.
     C. Other (Delineate where it came from if you know.)
6.  The replacement part number was GM 3919060
     A. Yes
     B. No
     C. Don't know
7.  Part number or cavity mold number (see the following link for the exact spot to look). http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1087.msg7428#msg7428
8.  Driver side headlight (HL) cover number & year (remove 4 screws and look on back side for part number or single number). http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1087.msg6271#msg6271
9.  Passenger side HL cover number & year.
10.  My vehicle was build in NOR/LOS (choose one).
11.  The build date of my vehicle is___.
12.  If known, the original engine size is/was____ (cu in/hp or "L" designation).
13.  VIN if you are comfortable in providing this.

[Steve68]

I have received several emails over the last few months from many of you me asking what the status of the research is and when you might see a report. 
All I can tell you right now is that the report has been writen and is under review.  I hope that it will be available very soon.  Thanks to all who particiapated and for the interest.

Steve

[KurtS]

Congratulations Steve on writing the article on the 68 RS grilles (and your patience with my editing!)! Nice research work!

http://www.camaros.org/68rs.shtml

[1968RSZ28]

Nice job Steve!  The '68 Rally Sport Camaro has to be the sexist of all Camaros...   

Paul

[Steve68]

Thanks guys!  I really enjoyed doing the research.  I thank all that participated and provided their time, critical info, and support.  I especially appreciated the continuing encouragement and help from Ed, Kurt, and Rich.

Steve

[68rs327conv]

Outstanding!

Mike

[noschevys]

I have the original grille in my 07C Norwood 68 SSRS 350 and it has the silver horizontal lines.  I also found a Polaroid picture when I bought the car in 1982 showing the grille.

[Steve68]

Thanks noschevys for the picture.  Would you mind taking some pictures of the inside of the grille where it attaches to the upper and lower grilles?  I am particularly interested in the rivets.  If it would not be asking to much I would appreciate you removing the headlight covers (4 screws) and taking a pic of that too.  Would you also note whether there are part numbers or mold numbers on the back side of the headlight covers.  One last request, would you take a picture of the back of the car?  Thanks!

Steve