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We've all seen this...right?


NOT FOR SALE.  GOING TO FIX IT UP ONE DAY.

  just as God intended it,cars are made from some minerals taken out of the ground, and from day one do the best to go back where it came from

great advice

no need to break anything in,,,it either works,,,or it won't

And after giving it some more thought,,,,cross ram and headers were never installed at the factory either,,,,deduction of points ?

I have survivor cars with 2 and with 1. I feel some installers got lazy and only did one side. And said to themselves, that's good, that will work. And went to the next one.

As far as removing it because it didn't come from the factory that way.... MCACN Vintage Certification does NOT subtract judging points if in place. I talked to Steve S about it, and he said he feels it is part of Chevrolet. Sure, it came later, but Chevrolet did it, developed it, sent the letter, and maybe they even did all the installs. I don't know if any of the work was farmed out. Maybe someone knows... So basically, overall, it's    "CHEVROLET"

NOW... we move to Mr. Jerry M   Who I have great respect.  I asked Jerry; he feels since it did NOT come on the car from NEW, that it shouldn't be on the car. At least during HIS judging. Of course, it can be put back on after inspection.

So there ya have it. 2 schools of thought on the subject. I have 2 cars missing both sides. I bought them and have to get them installed before they go up for sale. I have original dated letters and the envelopes they were sent in. So I want to do it.

Danny

so if you have a unrestored original with GM installed safety recall a deduction in points who cares what Jerry thinks,,,,whats next a chastise for a dealer installed replacement engine? get real

Waldron might be an option if you can not manage the Gardner, For basic Stock restoration type, I have no clue for performance version except Pypes might be a nice set.

You get what you pay for,,,you wont be disappointed with gardner

I was an intern at GM at the Warren Tech Center back in 1991.  The Tech Center News published the following about the Estes '68 Z/28.   Note the comments about the cross-ram being removed before it was sold to the public.  Enjoy the read.

that car was once owned my Al Maynard,,,long time drag racer

I would start at a half coil,reinstall and take it from there If memory serves me correctly that will lower it about a inch,but all springs are going to vary ,better to sneak up om it

I've heard that some of the cars may not be what they appear to be, buyer beware and be informed.

I was there and looked at every car in detail.
Every one of them are exactly what they appear to be.
The owner only bought quality cars over a 25 year period.
Yes, there were a a few 6 cylinder or standard cars, but 98% were the real deal.
Beware of opinions from anyone who wasn't there

It is my understanding that THEE BLOCK FOR THAT CAR WAS IN THE LOT of dz blocks

I tried to "TOOL" up to perform this task and failed -
Challenges, Sourcing quality correctly size starting stock rivets, Correct Tooling for "Backing bar" & "Buck"  driver for proper setting of rivets, Making a stable set up to crush aka set rivets,  was a big pain for just 6 pc of hardware, I went with ZIP products threaded rivets the Vette houses sell and called it good.

JIM

I did mine with a hydraulic press and some scrap steel for backing up the rivit,,,easy to do

I guess you got me on that one,,,,maybe I am missing something here,,,,how does outside diameter affect corrosion

You should be able to find a suitable replacement at any GOOD auto parts store,,,,nothing fancy or proprietary about a 10 1/2 clutch

we use one in our A/S CAMARO,,,nhra  NEEDS A SPECIAL CHARGER IS 16 VOLTS,,LIGHT AND EXPENSIVE

I believe the box with the ORANGE sticker on it came from Heartbeat City

 I JUST WENT THRU THIS SAME PROBLEM WITH A REPLACEMENT HARNESS,,,SPLIT THE FUSE BLOCK IN HALF AND YOU MOST LIKELY ARE GOING TO FIND THE NUT FLOATING AROUND IN THERE,,,,IT HAD A INSERT THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THOSE STAMPED NUTS THAT ARE USED IN FURNITURE,,,,NOT CLOSE TO ORIGINAL,,,,I TOOK SOME EPOXY AND GLUED IT IN THERE,,, I USED A BOLT TO HOLD IT TIGHT WHILE IT SET UP,,,,WORKED LIKE A CHARM