Good morning folks, it has been a long time since I last posted anything on the internet. A lot has happened in my life and through the support of family and friends I have managed to regain the passion I had lost for this incredible hobby. I am hoping someone here knows the whereabouts of my old Canadian documented tuxedo black/ white stripe orange houndstooth 1969 Z/28. I owned the car for many years and was forced to sell it in the fall of 2009. I would dearly like to buy the car back! And help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much to the CRG for allowing me to be a member and share my quest to one day be reunited with a car that means more than you can imagine to me and my family!
Respectfully,
Canadian Z/28
That has to be an extremely rare combo, so if anyone on here has seen it, they should remember it. Good luck with your search!
Good morning Leonard, thank you very much. I am certain that someone on this site has knowledge of where my car is now. The current owner may not have any intention of selling the vehicle however it would be great to speak with them and know that my old car is being cared for. I think almost everyone here has sold something they wish they had never had to! This 69 Z/28 is that one for me!
Post the VIN and the moderators might take a peek at the database to see if it's surfaced here before. More than a few black Z's have been discussed on the forum over the last many years -
Regards,
Steve
That's a great idea Steve! The VIN is 124379N684682
I hope it shows up so we can see photos of that color combo!
Have you tried the Ministry of Transportation?
No I have not tried the ministry. That is a very good idea however it will only tell me if the car still remains in Ontario. I suspect the car is now in the United States. Hopefully someone will share the whereabouts. It is an awesome looking car for sure!
Is that the car that R English owned at one time? I thought I remember seeing it on display at Motororama in Toronto years ago.
The display sign referred to it as "The Great Pumpkin"
I'm not sure I would have liked this combination in '69. But now I'd be a lover. Hope you find it.
Quote from: Rick68 on March 21, 2022, 04:31:22 AM
Is that the car that R English owned at one time? I thought I remember seeing it on display at Motororama in Toronto years ago.
The display sign referred to it as "The Great Pumpkin"
I Don't think it can be the same car that was originally posted .
The Richard English Camaro Heaven Z28 was owned by long time drag racer Ken R, out of Edmonton Ab, it was a race car for many years and went through lots of changes over the years with different motor combinations, but it was a black/orange houndstooth car too.
You guys are awesome! You have incredible memories and that is why I am now asking for your help! That is most definitely the same car and Ken R. was the previous owner. You are 100% correct about the drive train, it was changed many times and the car had been drag raced and still possessed the racing seat belts, line lock, and several other racing related items when I purchased it. The overall integrity of the car had not been affected by its racing history. The car was a clean rust free vehicle which only required refurbishing and detail work. The interior was all original and had not been cut or damaged in any way. Does anyone know the whereabouts of the car today?
I would contact Richard English from Camaro Heaven to see if he has a record of where it went. Here is a picture of it from Edmonton International Speedway , late 70,s.
People were looking for Richard back in 2019 already and the Great Pumpkin earlier than that.
https://www.camaros.net/threads/anyone-have-any-information-on-the-pumpkin.88026/
Unless Canadian Z28 is Richard himself?
11 years ago it was for sale in ON. I don't recall it surfacing lately.
Neither the tag nor the drivetrain is original, fwiw.
Good morning Kurt, you are correct! Neither the drivetrain or the trim tag are original to the car. The owner was up front about the history of the car when he sold it to me. I too passed along everything I knew about the car when I sold it. Every car has history and this tuxedo black Z/28 is no different. Neither of these made a difference to me as the car was essentially original and very solid. Where was the car listed for sale 11 years ago? Do you recall? Maybe that would be a good place for me to start my search. Thank you again for everyone's help!
I don't remember where it was listed, just that it was in ON.
So the Canadian docs support the color combo?? Or was the tag changed to support the color combo?
Try posting on lost muscle cars on facebook. In my case the second owner was looking for a car I recently bought, and a friend spotted this and said some guy is looking for that car (only had 2 weeks). I would have never known unless my friend did not spot it. Maybe try that. I see someone from BC is looking for a black 67 z/28. So folks from Canada are posting there. good luck.
When I put in z/28 on the search for that site, my car was at the top as the most recent connection made.
https://www.facebook.com/page/678670182240973/search/?q=camaro%20z%2F28
Yes, the docs support the colors.
Quote from: KurtS on March 23, 2022, 04:16:51 PM
Yes, the docs support the colors.
Wow, thats a cool color combo.
Thank you all for the support. I am going to try Facebook and any other means necessary to find my old car. I have met so many wonderful people through this hobby and I am grateful for everyone's efforts!
Wow, good thing it's a Canadian car! Sorry, I can't help but wonder why the tag was replaced? ???
I spoke with the original owner many years ago and if memory serves me correct he said it was removed during the restoration process and never found.
I have come to a dead end. I spoke with David Griffith of Legendary Motorcar yesterday and he admitted to knowing the whereabouts of my old car! Before I had a chance to get excited he informed me that he personally had sold the car to a VERY wealthy collector in the U.S. and if I wanted it back I would have to make an offer. I asked him what a reasonable price would be and he simply said that I called him and it was up to me to make a substantial offer which he would then take to the owner. He would not share the name or whereabouts of the car and was very rude when I asked for his assistance. I thanked him and apologized for wasting his time. End of conversation and my dream. 🥲
= he wants a slice of that transaction...
Tell him you would have to see car in person to make any offer!
David Griffith knows where the car is and wants to make some cash. You might get to the owner with offering David a finders fee. Just depends on how bad you want to meet the current owner.
Probably cheaper to pay a private investigator to find it.
I paid a PI to find the previous owner of my car and he did it. I already had the persons name from the previous registration. Don't remember the cost but I felt it was reasonable. Turns out in my case the previous owner was still pissed about loosing the car (forced sale) and he said he "could not remember anything" about any questions I had. He seemed to think I was rubbing it in his face or something. Really???? What a jerk. OH WELL.
When David finally called me back after five attempts to reach him I explained what I was looking for and asked him if he had consigned the car on behalf of the gentleman I sold it to. David explained to me that he did not consign the car, that he had purchased it and many others from the same gentleman it was easier that way! I then told him how much the car meant to me and offered to pay him his standard commission at which time he asked me what was I willing to pay. I asked him for his guidance as to what he felt the car was worth? He did not offer any help whatsoever and said that I had called him. I then asked what 1969Z 28 were selling for at this time. Again he said you called me! I again asked him for his help trying to determine what an open headlight rare colour combination 1969 Ze 28 was worth as I am not in the car business. He said that he had no idea what these types of cars were worth as he had not sold one in a long time. I then commented that they had had several on their website over the past several months and years and therefore maybe we could start their period David said look, you called me and this gentleman is a multimillionaire who has a extensive collection and is in no need of selling any of the cartons. I begged him for his help and when he said there was nothing he could do to help me and was not willing to reach out to this gentleman unless I was willing to write a check for an exorbitant amount I told them that I suppose there is no way I will ever on the car again!
If you are serious on getting the car back, maybe you can put a finders fee out there on Facebook or hire a investigator as Stingr69 suggested. I am sure someone out there knows who this millionaire is besides Mr.Griffith. If that is even a true story on not.
Ill post some pics later today, the car was never actively raced other than some weekends , last i heard the car was in a museum in toronto, i had the chance to repurchased the car in the late 80s for 80,000 plus, i should never have parted ways with this 1 of 1- iwas starting my drag race career and had issues fiinding a safe place to store it,