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Title: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: camarosource on December 25, 2013, 12:38:40 AM
Hello,

I sincerely would appreciate some help on this matter of CONFLICTING information on the 1969 Camaro. I've literally spent HOURS researching and resulted in nothing more than a bad headache.

CONFLICTING INFORMATION

CONFLICT: #1

[ENGINE] : 200hp 307ci

[SOURCE] : 1969 Restoration Package (1 part of the technical information)
[DATE] April 1969

- Indicates the M40 "Turbo Hydra-Matic" had the following for the REAR AXLE:

[W/O A/C] - Std. : 2.56
[W/O A/C] - Econ. : NO
[W/O A/C] - Perf. : 2.73
[W/O A/C] - Spec. : NO

HOWEVER:

[SOURCE] : 1969 Restoration Package (1 part of the technical information)
[DATE] October 15, 1968

- Indicates the M40 "Turbo Hydra-Matic" had the following for the REAR AXLE:

[W/O A/C] - Std. : 2.56
[W/O A/C] - Econ. : NO
[W/O A/C] - Perf. : 2.73
[W/O A/C] - Spec. : 3:08 <----

HOWEVER:

[SOURCE] : 1969 USA Brochure
[DATE] UNKNOWN

- Indicates the M40 "Turbo Hydra-Matic" had the following for the REAR AXLE:

[W/O A/C] - Std. : 2.56
[W/O A/C] - Econ. : NO
[W/O A/C] - Perf. : 2.73
[W/O A/C] - Spec. : 3:08 OR 3.36 <----




CONFLICT #2

[ENGINE] : L22 155hp 250ci

[SOURCE] : 1969 Restoration Package (1 part of the technical information)
[DATE] October 15, 1968

- Indicates the M40 "Turbo Hydra-Matic" had the following for the REAR AXLE:

[W/O A/C] - Std. : 2.56
[W/O A/C] - Econ. : 2.73
[W/O A/C] - Perf. : NO
[W/O A/C] - Spec. : 3:08 OR 3.36 <----

HOWEVER

[SOURCE] : 1969 Restoration Package (1 part of the technical information)
[DATE] April 1969

- Indicates the M40 "Turbo Hydra-Matic" had the following for the REAR AXLE:

[W/O A/C] - Std. : 2.56
[W/O A/C] - Econ. : NO <--- Switched places?
[W/O A/C] - Perf. : 2.73 < --- Switched places?
[W/O A/C] - Spec. : 3:08 OR 3.36 <----

HOWEVER

[SOURCE] : 1969 USA Brochure
[DATE] UNKNOWN

- Indicates the M40 "Turbo Hydra-Matic" had the following for the REAR AXLE:

[W/O A/C] - Std. : 2.56
[W/O A/C] - Econ. : NO <--- Switched places?
[W/O A/C] - Perf. : 2.73 < --- Switched places?
[W/O A/C] - Spec. : 3:08 OR 3.36 <----


There is not a lot of 1st gen information that breaks down the powertrains down to the axles and combinations so I am having a difficult time finding the truth. I can't tell what is TYPO's (GM Brochures, and documentation is just FULL of bad typo's) and what are upgrades. Before anything goes on my site, I research and cross-reference between 1000's of sheets of information along with books, online resources, brochures, and magazines.. But there is not a lot of information with this deep of combinations on the 1st gen's..

Thanks
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: tom on December 25, 2013, 02:38:27 AM
My 307 is a glide, and deep in the garage, but if you want I will try to get a peek at the axle code. Might take a bit of time but I'm willing.

Tom
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: camarosource on December 25, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
That would be extremely much appreciated. :-)
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: tom on December 25, 2013, 02:53:26 AM
Going to happen,  but not to quickly. Will post numbers when I get to it
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: KurtS on December 28, 2013, 09:59:20 PM
You can't have an economy gear lower than 2.56.
And specs changed during the year. The Z couldn't get a 4.10 later in the year.
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: rich69rs on January 01, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
My NOR 01C 69 RS probably had a 307 in it originally (original engine had been removed by the time I purchased the car in 1991 and replaced with a 327).  It still has the original PG transmission and open rear end with 2.73 gears.  Gearing verified by axle code and stamping a on the OD of the pinion gear.  Can supply pictures later if needed.  Currently at 33,000 ft traveling on business and don't have pics with me.
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: BULLITT65 on January 01, 2014, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: KurtS on December 28, 2013, 09:59:20 PM
You can't have an economy gear lower than 2.56.
And specs changed during the year. The Z couldn't get a 4.10 later in the year.
I wasn't aware that the 4.10 wasn't available at one point. When did they remove that option?
Title: Re: HELP: Conflicting 1969 Camaro Powertrain REAR AXLE Availablities
Post by: rich69rs on January 02, 2014, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: rich69rs on January 01, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
...... and stamping a on the OD of the pinion gear.

correction to my previous post - should be ".....OD of ring gear..."