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wisemanz28

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1969 Z28 Camaro
« on: July 25, 2012, 02:02:21 AM »
I recently came across a completely original 1969 Z28 Camaro for sale. This car retains all of its numbers matching drivetrain. The motor is out of the car and dissembled, its complete except for the 1111480 distributor, original radiator and smog pump pulley. All of the other drivetrain pieces have never been removed from the car, still has the original paint and some rust on the drivers quarter panel and drivers door.The car has 69000 miles on it and has been off the road since 1975. I'm wondering what the CRG members think this car is worth, I''m thinking of making an offer on the car.

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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 02:24:25 AM »
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 02:29:02 AM »
Already over the money for a rusty car.
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 02:45:19 AM »
Already over the money for a rusty car.

I agree, and why was the engine disassembled?
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 02:50:19 AM »
Thanks for the info guys

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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012, 11:06:28 PM »
Maybe I'm confused but that car is not a rusty hulk in my view, not sure it's worth the price but definitely a great piece.

In my opinion, the engine needs to be built with an old paint finish and reinstalled, treat the rust areas to stop any further deteriation (maybe a little work and spot blend) and show it as is as a reference piece.

There only original once, they can be built or restored 1000 times, original cars even in that condition (which I don't is that bad) should be left alone.

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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 12:00:42 AM »
No one called the car a "rusty hulk." But there sure is a lot of rust perforation for a car that has been off the road for 37 years.

The poor storage of the engine is a potential problem. There is rust and aside from that, it was dismantled and abandoned for a reason-worn out, block cracked, spun main? What if it isn't rebuildable? Assuming it is the cost of acquisition plus complete drivetrain rebuild and making the car roadworthy doesn't add up.

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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 01:51:50 AM »
Bad choice of words on my part, you have good points and some things to consider to go with that. Way too many people get in over their heads on repairs, pulled the motor thinking I can fix it on the cheap, found out it needed machine work and got stopped, never got back to it. We have all seen it many times and yes it cold be cracked or a chunk missing that the seller isn't showing (81% rating definitely leaves questions). As far as the rest of the powertrain, couple hundred for the small parts kit and an afternoon, double that if you have to replace a gear or 2. The rear if it needs everything is $5-700, add $300 if the axles are bad, but doubtful.

It could be a good project for a builder, if you had to pay to have the work done, then it doesn't make sense and again the entry fee puts it at a tough sell...................but that is the asking price not the sold price.

Point is, IN MY OPINION, cars like this should be saved and preserved if at all possible. Doesn't a car like this add a lot to CRG?

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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 02:36:40 AM »
Definitely should not be restored. It is a survivor.

A Z/28 in comparable condition but with running OE engine was sold earlier this year. The new owner has made the necessary repairs and retained the Day 2 equipment. Will not be restored; probably gets more attention as it is.

Hope this one finds a similar home.
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 04:01:17 PM »
Bill I agree the day 2 look is becoming more and more popular again. This car would be a project for sure and not cheap, seems a little high as it hit $27K and the reserve was not met. Not sure of any '69Z project car currently bringing money in the $30K range.
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 06:28:33 PM »
Engine is holding it back. I bought a std bore DZ block years ago that turned out to have a spun thrust bearing. Just lucky one of my buds could get it handled.

With a complete drive train rebuild, brakes, tires, exhaust, etc one could drop another $15k here. And it will still be rusty.
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 03:00:01 AM »
Engine is holding it back. I bought a std bore DZ block years ago that turned out to have a spun thrust bearing. Just lucky one of my buds could get it handled.

With a complete drive train rebuild, brakes, tires, exhaust, etc one could drop another $15k here. And it will still be rusty.

Not sure who does your work but I could have all that work done for less than half that price.
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 03:25:54 AM »
i dont even know if i buy original paint on this car. the stripes inside the hood look to have been repainted
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 05:30:31 AM »
i dont even know if i buy original paint on this car. the stripes inside the hood look to have been repainted

I'm with ya plus the upper cowl should have white from when stripes were painted. My original paint car had white all along the upper cowl.
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Re: 1969 Z28 Camaro
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 01:46:14 PM »
I'd own it.

lcmc, can you post a picture of yours with the paint on the cowl for reference.

 

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