Author Topic: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted  (Read 65101 times)

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69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« on: November 18, 2011, 05:50:50 AM »
I'd appreciate anyone who has an original 1969 L48 (or LM1) automatic air cleaner base decal with the part number 6484584 on it replying to this posting.  I'm looking for a picture, dimensions, & the two letter code (C_).  I'm hoping to get someone to reproduce this decal and will provide contact info to get your own on this same posting.  At this time I am not aware of anyone reproducing a correct part number decal.  There are several suppliers suggesting they are but the part numbers do not match either the Factory AIM or Camaro Master Parts Catalogues I have or have seen printed between 1969 & 1971.  There is a alternate part number listed for 1969 with a larger 2" heat stove pipe which was added after the July 1969 catalogue printing (late extended production run change?) which is not what I am looking for.  I am also not interested in the decal for manual transmissions which is available.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 06:36:04 AM »
Les,

I'm not sure if this is the decal your looking for, but check out the photos in this recent Ebay listing...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130598896460?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 09:42:56 AM »
What page in the AIM are you seeing that part number? 
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 03:00:58 PM »
What page in the AIM are you seeing that part number? 

It's not in the A.I.M. - the sticker was part of the air cleaner assembly, installed at AC Spark Plug.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 08:05:24 PM »
I don't have AIM with me but under the TH350 M35 section the air cleaner part number is 6484584. Yes - there is no sticker shown except the one on the lid in the AIM. However, the air cleaner part number and the part number on the sticker have been the same on other unmolested original decals I have seen. And the two letter code appears to match the broadcast sheets I have seen.  I'm thinking that the two letter code is a factory parts bin code but that's a guess. This makes sense to me but maybe I don't understand the whole story.

I've seen the air cleaner referenced in the ebay ad and it may be from an SS350 but by the part number 6485887 it would not appear to from an automatic '69 Camaro.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 11:02:23 PM »
For what it's worth, HBC has that CR decal listed as applying to all 350/300hp engines, not just automatic. 

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 02:59:16 AM »
Partially correct descriptions (even if done in good faith) is part of the challenge of restoring a car correctly I am discovering.  Here's the page from the AIM.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2011, 04:32:22 AM »
Yes, the two-letter code is the broadcast code.
Cowl hood or not? Assuming not, CO is the sticker you want. I have a bad pic of an original sticker.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 12:20:18 PM »
There's a CO decal at HBC.  They have it shown for a 68 350/295hp, doesn't look like the same part number from what I can see in their picture though.  It is black and gold like the one in Kurt's picture.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 03:12:27 PM »
Good spot Steve!
 
I consider myself descent w/PC searches but this thing has been difficult to nail down. Part of the confusion might be the change from 295 to 300hp in '69 for the L48. Although this change had more to do with marketing it might have confused the issue as it relates to this sticker for early built 69's. What does the Camaro Master Parts Catalog say about hp as it relates to this 6484584 sticker? As was mentioned by Steve, HBC has their CO sticker listed for a '68 @ 295hp. And...Even though Kurt's pic (I'll have to agree w/you Kurt...man that pic sucks ;D) is almost impossible to make out, there are some similarities between the two in layout and print. Too bad the part #'s can't be made out on either one but all indications is that; the sticker you are looking for was intended for the '68 model year.
 
Also, KIM the LM1 was/is rated at 255hp so I don't think it would apply to this particular sticker.

http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/17074/Camaro-Air-cleaner-decal-350-295-hp-68/

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 03:42:30 PM »
LM1 and L48 used the same air cleaner.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 03:51:36 PM »
Yes, but did the 255, 295 & 300hp cars all use the same air cleaner side sticker? I guess my point is...jobbers appear to sell these stickers based on HP.

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 04:09:48 PM »
Hard to imagine if the air cleaner assembly came from AC and the same ones were used on LM1 and LM48s there would be a different decal on them based on the engine - it wouldn't seem to serve any pupose would it?
« Last Edit: November 19, 2011, 05:12:38 PM by srode »
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 04:37:51 PM »
You might be on to something. But why the change in early and late '69 stickers? Remember, there is the one Paul posted a link of. That sticker certainly looks original and is also for later in the '69 model year.

Maybe someone at HBC knows. After all, they are the ones advertising their sticker for a 295hp '68.

BTW, what's a LM58  ???   

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 05:12:00 PM »

BTW, what's a LM58  ???   
It's a typo  :)   Maybe they were running out inventory in the earlier months?
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