VIN Number Question

[ScottJon]

So i have spoken to someone at Barrett Jackson, his comments led me to believe that this stuff happened all the time

He said, blocks cracked and they grabbed the next one in line and so forth, BUT ....... my block is one LOWER than the car

He didnt seemed to concerned but, he did say it was not a numbers matching car, and it could or couldnt hurt the resale value because they are one number off but that it makes for a great story


 

[tmodel66]

Do you have a pic of the engine pad stamp?

[ScottJon]

here it is

[IZRSSS]

I'm going out on a limb and say based on what I see in the pic, I'm inclined to agree with Scott; Number one, there is no clear evidence (at least from this angle) the pad has been decked. Number two, All forged pads I have seen have clear separation between the partial Vin & the engine stamp, and three, who else but the factory would make a change as obvious as this? Not only on the pad, but also on the sheet metal? I don't know of any forger that would go to this extreme. Who knows, as many units as were produced each day, maybe the line worker just picked up the wrong number (6 instead of the 7).

FWIW...the engine number was stamped before the partial Vin. You're correct Scott, it does make for a good story.

[ScottJon]

Wow, thanks, Im starting to feel a little better about this. I knew you guys would know way more than I do.

Thank you all so much

this car, will be my 9 year old daughters 2nd car, it will be over 50 years old when she is ready for it

[IZRSSS]

Scott - please keep in mind this is only one persons opinion and I am certainly no expert. I am certain others will chime in who are MUCH more qualified then me. Your venture with this car would be much more manageable if you had factory documentation referencing these changes. Without it, you will always have difficulties supporting these same issues. In addition, Zs bring a premium & those willing to pay these prices leave little to chance.

Great news with regards to your daughter!

[ScottJon]

i totally understand your point

your comments are truly appreciated

[jacmac]

On the partial vin on the block why is the 5 & 6 bigger?

[ScottJon]

I have no idea, but the guys that worked at the factory said that happened all the time

i can only go by what they told me. I happen to be lucky that i live a few miles from where the car was built

[68Zproject]

It's good unless a master forger did this.

On the partial vin on the block why is the 5 & 6 bigger?

They put numbers in a gang stamp.  They are not always uniform in size.  But, the transmission stamp should look the same as the engine.

[1968RSZ28]

It's a restamp!!  But to help you out Scott, I'm going to offer you $1000.00 for the car...   

Seriously, it looks OK to me.  Kurt and Jerry are the stamp experts.  I'd get their opinion.

Paul

[ScottJon]

I bet if I hod out, you will come up to $1500.00 !!!

i wish i met you guys 9 years ago, i spent all that time worrying about the stamping, every guy or woman i met that worked at the factory said it was perfectly fine, but they were also the ones that told me they were stoned or drunk at work since it was Ls Angeles in the 60's so i could only believe them so much :-)  i hope to re-pay the favors in the future.


So far, we have completely rebuilt the motor, Trans, Master Cylinder, Carb etc, the interior is out, the front clip is off, getting ready to start taking the paint off. I am so hoping to be done by November so i can drive the car. Otherwise, summer in L.A. with no AC is not as much fun as it may sound

We are going back to Burnished Brown with White Stripes..

keep those offers coming Paul

[firstgenaddict]

There are many VN cars with different sized numerals in the VIN stamping... I wouldn't be worried about that in the least.
The Assembly stamp and pad look good compared to other mid april blocks. The block is a 618 casting number correct?


If the rolled number advanced manually from vehicle to vehicle then there is the possibility that (Heaven Forbid) a line worked did not advance the number which was subsequently caught. With the Engine installed and the Alt in place it would have been impossible to re-strike the block...  

[ScottJon]

yes you are correct James and thank you for your input

Im humbled by the level of knowledge you guys possess

[1968RSZ28]

I bet if I hod out, you will come up to $1500.00 !!!

keep those offers coming Paul

Well, my offer was for "as is" right now, but if you want to complete the restoration first, I'd be happy to give you $1500.00...   

Paul