Chambered exhaust hanger

[firstgenaddict]

Unless they have changed them in the last few years, Gardners rear hangers are not correct (The arched rubber spacer is not in the hanger).  Eric did tell me that it would cost an extra $50 to make the hanger correct... I stated that equated to a few percent of the system cost and since I was paying near 2k $50 wasn't going to push me not to buy... I wished they consulted the hobby before the decision was made to scrimp on the hanger.









Over the axle hanger retainers reproduction and original.

[BULLITT65]

Seems like my bracket may be different with a rubber strap as well.  Was this a chambered only part?

[Stingr69]

$2000 and you still have to PAY MORE to get a tiny piece of rubber added to make the hangar right?!?!?! 

[firstgenaddict]

There is a difference between the optional system vs the earlier system rear drivers hanger (at least in the assembly manual) 
The rear drivers hanger on the early system was different, the later system has the same part number as the N10.
The overaxle hangers are different for Chambered vs N10 throughout the entire run as the N10 hangers are much longer, the chambered utilizes only one bolt with a retainer and the N10 uses a 2 bolt attachment.
The rear crossover chambered pipes had 2 welded straps on them and are bolted together on the early system, the bolt nut and washer were deleted in mid January. (original exhausts would need to be studied to determine if and when the change fell upon the assembly line.)

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$2000 and you still have to PAY MORE to get a tiny piece of rubber added to make the hangar right?!?!?!  
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oh no it wasn't even offered as an option...


When I questioned Eric Gardner about the difference he knew it and merely stated it would cost an extra $50 for them to make them correct. I stammered in disbelief as I couldn't even fathom eliminating a part to save $50 ESPECIALLY given the articles I had read regarding Gardner's adherence to correctness.

It was at this point I basically gave up on anything reproduction being correct regardless of the price.


What I disliked the most is that I offered to send him my originals so he could copy them or take it apart to use my white strap, I asked if he needed anything in order to ensure everything was correct as I really wanted the white sidewall strap replaced with like. He stated they originally made them with white and or black and they received complaints about the white strapped hangers so they stopped however he thought there were some white straps still around and he would try to put it in my hanger.
He told me that they knew how the originals were made and theirs were exact copies, he never mentioned the wedged rubber omission.

Whether intentional or not the pictures on their website were not of a high enough resolution to see that the wedge is missing.

[BULLITT65]

I have also talked with Eric about some of the finer details on his system. I think initially when it came out it was considered a high level reproduction, mostly because a lot of reproduction stuff in general was (is) crap. But over the years Trim* parts and other items have become more and more refined, while his exhaust system seems to have stayed the same. It is still a nice system from what I have seen but, little things like these clamps as well the muffler clamps on the resonator set up and the over the axle hangers could have been reviewed by him and made to be correct. From what I researched a few years ago there wasn't another company that was going to swoop in and eclipse his system, but I think you always want to try to improve your own product right?