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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2015, 03:39:22 PM »
Yes, it looks like it's time for another survey...

My gas cap, which I believe to be original to my car (and is still on the car) is round, no ears, S stamp in the center, SM stamp on the bracket.

10A of '68 Norwood car.

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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2015, 06:55:55 PM »
05C NOR - no ears
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2015, 01:40:01 PM »
Yes, it looks like it's time for another survey...

My gas cap, which I believe to be original to my car (and is still on the car) is round, no ears, S stamp in the center, SM stamp on the bracket.

10A of '68 Norwood car.

Charlie

10B 68 with ears. So much for the early/late theory.
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2015, 01:16:31 AM »
Too small of a sample size to pronounce anything yet. Hard to tell if some of these are original to the cars, too -

I can speak for the X77 from March of '73, the Z11 only from '94.

I guess we need a lot of respondents -

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1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2015, 02:44:26 AM »
My 03B NOR has no ears

Interesting.. So why would Stant produce two different style caps during the same period of time ?
It's not an early vs late thing either since we are seeing both styles throughout the year.
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2015, 07:10:50 PM »
Since the caps aren't dated (as far as I know), there's no sure way to determine whether they are original to the car, or were replaced at some point. In 1969, and certainly into the early '70's, most gas stations pumped the gas for you (I worked for both Mobil and Union 76 while in school, pumped many a gallon), so leaving the cap tucked between the filler/plate door and letting people drive off was a rare occurence. How many caps do you see on the side of the roads nowadays ? Plenty. How many caps failed emissions testing and had to be replaced ? None - we didn't test then. Point being - I don't think I have ever replaced an early gas cap, dating back to my Corvair and Bel Air days. If most caps are originals, and survivors have the same spread of caps, it's going to be a difficult question to answer.

Just my two $.01's - but keep the discussion going. Somebody has to have a clue. Survivor owners ?

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Steve
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2015, 08:52:42 PM »
Just to add a data point my 9B of 68 survivor had the eared type cap as shown. I had never seen another one until this thread. I can't confirm it wasn't replaced however it had plenty of patina.
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2015, 11:43:40 PM »
Besides the 3 cars I have had for a long while, I also had a parts car + a tank bought from a friend that appeared original in all respects. I think 4 of the 5 caps had ears, which I dismissed as replacements, understandably. I always thought it odd that so many original caps where lost or replaced. Since I could not say with certainty that the caps were original, I never replied with any information on thisdata. It would be nice to put this one to bed, especially since I have 4 caps that are believed wrong up till now.
My only non-ear cap. Several of the early posts show caps with recessed lettering opposed to the raised lettering on the non-ear & car pic with filler door.
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2015, 02:02:28 AM »
I'm really leaning in the direction of a two-design supplier for the entire year. Here's a thought - did Stant supply this same cap to Ford or Chrysler in the same time period ? I don't frequent either manufacturer's fan club sites, but I think it's a related question. External caps are ruled out (like the '67-8's), but there are other models that might share the cap for '69 and later. Just wondering - possible substitution if the spec cap for '69 Camaros ran low ? Too bad we can't look at the part specifications like the CBTN major parts books.

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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2015, 04:29:32 AM »
My 05A NOR car-no ears. Owned the car since '78
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2015, 04:34:08 AM »
'69 Van Nuy's Z.  04B.   Ears with what appears to be GM or SM stamp.  No idea if it's original.
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2015, 04:16:34 PM »
I can vouch for my cap from 1982. I recently had to replace it with a new one, because fuel was spilling out the back when accelerating. A gentleman behind me let me know. So it was old enough for seal failure. Other than having been lost, I so no reason why it had ever been replaced. But I can't be certain.
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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2015, 08:06:37 PM »
Ill look at the 10E 69 and see which cap it has..  I know its the same as far back as '78..  Can also look at the 69 Z to see which cap it has.  Ill post pics in a few days..

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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2015, 05:19:25 AM »
My 06A Z28 has no Ears and paper sealing gasket, owned since 1974, have no reason to doubt its original to car.

Just restored a 02D Van Nuys Z28 and it had no ears and paper gasket too.

I have noticed before that the ear type caps have rubber gaskets?

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Re: 69 Gas Caps revisited - original Cap?
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2015, 04:05:29 PM »


I have noticed before that the ear type caps have rubber gaskets?


That's what mine has.
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