124379N561026 in database??

[MyRed67]

So he's got both tags??  Then he has to know that at least one of them can't be correct.

[dannystarr]

Here is his response...  The story seems to be changing a little.

   Sorry to hear about the food poisoning! The camaro isn't for sale. I did recently sell it to someone on eBay, but I noticed the cowl tag didn't seam to be fastened correctly like from the factory. So, I told him that I wouldn't feel comfortable selling the 69 as a true x55 car. After that I started to dissect the car and all the other parts I got with it like extra heads and intake. Thats when I recognized the vin matches the trans, engine, and hidden vin spots. The engine has the matching vin, DZ code, Z heads, & z intake. Then when I found the x77 cowl tag and put everything else together I thought that this is a real Z. I'm confused and going back to the person who sold it to me. I'm confused as hell. I wish there were other ways to tell what this camaro is?
Thanks again,

 

[KurtS]

I want to know what the axle code is.....

Car is not a Z.

[z28z11]

Tag from the 2008 post and the X77 tag. Subtle differences in font, but the obvious Mongolian is the change from X77 to X55 or vice versa somewhere along the line. What state did it end up in ? The car belongs in a Transformers movie.

Regards,
Steve

[ZLP955]

Are the experts of the opinion that the X55 tag is genuine?

[69Z28-RS]

So the current owner believes he bought a 'fake' SS, that was originally a real Z28 car?   ONE or BOTH of those two tags has to be fake, as they have the same BDY number....
Maybe someone got a deal on two fake tags??  Keeping his options open? 

[cook_dw]

Both tags are fake.  Just my $0.02

[dannystarr]

I told him I didn't think it was a real Z/28, and that I had been in touch with some experts, and they seem to also think the same. Here is his latest reply...     

    Haven't checked behind the heater box. The partial vin on cowl, vin plate, engine, and tranny all match. Can you tell me what is telling you that this is not a real Z/28? What I'm looking at is starting to tell me it could be a z/28 (dz code, matching #'s, z heads, z intake, etc...). I'll look at the rear later this week, and let you know what I find. I also have a meeting to see the person who sold me the Camaro this week too. I appreciate the help and again hope you feel better.
Thanks,
Charlie


 Then my response back to him..

   Email me clear close-up pictures of the front engine pad stamp also. And the trans VIN and build date stamps.
Checking under the heater box is tough. Let’s start with the pictures for now.

[dannystarr]

Here are some pictures. Kind of a mess with the flashes placed just right, and the SO light depth of the stampings. I don't know about this one. Pretty scary.......Danny

[dannystarr]

Couple more shots..

[z28z11]

Here are some pictures. Kind of a mess with the flashes placed just right, and the SO light depth of the stampings. I don't know about this one. Pretty scary.......Danny

Sanding scratches to cover feed lines from surfacing ? Too little of the deck surface in the shot to tell. Bulkhead reads "X5" or "X7" - can't tell. Deck stamp looks decent, but the whole thing gets worse all the time. Trans stamp looks decent. I'd bet the X55 stamp was original, then changed to an X77 at some point - you think ?

Like any other car - if all the documentation you have is a cowl tag, you'd best look real close - at everything.

Regards,
Steve

[KurtS]

Interesting. The original pad was better. The DZ was in-line. You can see the top of the D still there. And the partial Z of the right wasn't there.
Still a restamp.
I suspect the trans, but can't tell from that pic.
I suspect the X55 tag could be real. X77 isn't.

[cook_dw]

I suspect the X55 tag could be real. X77 isn't.

You are probably right but for some reason it doesnt look right to me...   I guess that is why I will never consider myself an expert..  

[cook_dw]

Bulkhead reads "X5" or "X7" - can't tell. Deck stamp looks decent, but the whole thing gets worse all the time. Trans stamp looks decent. I'd bet the X55 stamp was original, then changed to an X77 at some point - you think ?

Like any other car - if all the documentation you have is a cowl tag, you'd best look real close - at everything.

Regards,
Steve

It almost looks as if it was X5 and someone changed the 5 to a 7..  Would need a much better pic to be able to tell.

[ko-lek-tor]

I suspect the X55 tag could be real. X77 isn't.

Could an X55 have had that M21 trans? Thought that was a solid lifter and 396/350hp only?