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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2024, 02:44:01 AM »
Moving it to the other section.
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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2024, 02:53:30 AM »
If the paint on the back of the car is original, please show some pics of the rear stripes and spoiler.

If the paint on the top of the firewall and cowl is original, please show that area, including the stripes.

Pics of the transmission, shifter, bellhousing and driveshaft (if any colored stripes) would be good.

Thanks! 
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1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2024, 10:51:14 AM »
I think the bell housing was repainted completely orange when the engine was pulled.

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2024, 10:53:33 AM »
Picture of the firewall and inside the trunk

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2024, 04:45:50 PM »
Thanks for those. If you can show the transition between the orange at the top of the firewall and the blackout on the firewall that would be good.

It is OK if the bellhousing was repainted.  Post pics of that area anyway when you can.  The shifter area, rods etc is often messed with. Let's see if this one is still original.

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Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2024, 08:20:44 PM »
Firewall and cowl tag

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2024, 08:29:28 PM »
Bell housing pictures. Hard to get without a lift. The car still has the reverse lockout on it. I don't see any balancing marks on the driveshaft, but it was most likely painted.

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2024, 10:38:58 PM »
Hard to be sure from the pictures, but I think the car has been repainted.
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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2024, 12:27:32 AM »
I have agree on the repaint, the firewall blackout is cleaner that normal and the paint in areas that really can,t be buffed is really shiny for 55 year old paint imo. At least a lot of touch up.
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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2024, 01:48:00 AM »
I see orange paint in the cowl under the cowl vents. Was this not painted white (stripe color) after body color from the factory?
Repaint or not, awesome car.
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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2024, 06:55:38 PM »
Very nice car, but I think I agree on the repaint. I would have to see in person to say just how much if any paint was original.

The original post said 90 percent of the paint was original.

The documentation is great.

If possible it would be good to see some other details like trunk splatter paint, reverse lockout rod area for the shifter, radiator tag, transmission and axle stamped codes.
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1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2024, 01:10:57 PM »
Fair enough. I questioned it being original myself but was told it was from the seller. Her daddy bought it new. I question the road rash on the car. I walked up front(fog light area) and I see enough rock chips to equal 94 K miles. I looked behind the tires and there was some but not a lot. I noticed the trim around the fenders had been changed.  Then I look through the receipts and see where daddy had mud flaps put on the car at the dealership. Yes, I said it mud flaps! Other than on the doors and rear quarters I honestly can't tell where it has been touched up. I couldn't see the touched-up areas in pictures prior to me seeing the car and still can't in those pictures. I took pictures myself yesterday and I can't see it in those either. The owner claimed she didn't know it had been touched up, but I can clearly see it. I showed her right before I passed on the car the first time. I don't see any touch ups in the cowl area on the orange. If it was then whoever done it should have redone the doors. Now the black might have been repainted when the engine was pulled. Sorry If I mislead you with my 90% factory paint. I'm still not convinced it's not factory paint though. I know its lacquer paint for sure. If it was repainted, then it was done prior to 1984 for sure. In fact, it had to be touched up prior to 1984 so it was painted prior to that if it was.  Just don't make sense to me. Too many small dings here and there from years of use. Then again some of those dings could have happened during storage. Car was parked in storage in 1984.

Here is the original tag. She cleaned up pretty good.

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2024, 09:36:42 PM »
A lot of cars were “restored” in the early and mid 80s with original type paint. A buddy (who passed away several years ago) could duplicate factory paint to the point most people could not tell the difference.
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Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2024, 11:40:37 AM »
Well, I hate to say it but you fellows are correct. The more I look the more signs I see of a repaint. Small amount of orange over spray on the door rubber. Orange on the fog lamp cord. Then when I look at the white stripes I noticed a faith line off to the side under the orange. I think it's the old stripe line. I noticed the trunk bumpers are painted orange also. I apologize for my 90% factory paint statement. The good news is this will end my decision on whether to repaint the car or not....its not original now so it don't matter. The documentation is what drew me back to the car anyways. It wasn't the paint job for sure.   

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Re: 1969 Z28 time capsule
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2024, 12:06:59 PM »
Radiator and rear diff. stamp

 

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