69 Z28 LOS?

[bcmiller]

Charley is correct.

[bcmiller]

I received a confirmation of an order from Chevy Muscle Docs Shipping Data Service request. I'm not sure if this is the correct place to order from but that is where the NCRS site too me to.

That’s the correct place.

[Jonesy]

Yep that tag looks like it got hot. I got NCRS docs on both my LA Cars. My one, 9L508474 is close to yours. Im sure they will have it.

Get a pic of your rear axle tube stamping. its stamped on the passenger side, forward facing surface of the axle tube.

 

[68 Ragtop]

I received a confirmation of an order from Chevy Muscle Docs Shipping Data Service request. I'm not sure if this is the correct place to order from but that is where the NCRS site too me to.

Just making sure you know that all this will tell you is when and where it shipped. It has no optional equipment list on it, so has no value in determining if you have a Z/28 or not.

Axle data is somewhat helpful, and it has been requested from you. Can't tell you any more without it.

[Ptjsk]

I received a confirmation of an order from Chevy Muscle Docs Shipping Data Service request. I'm not sure if this is the correct place to order from but that is where the NCRS site too me to.

That is correct.  I have used the NCRS site for three of my Corvettes and then also for the '69 Z28 I just acquired.  For the "Z" you have to go to the Chevy Muscle Docs as you have already done.  It does take about three weeks to obtain your document. 

Pat

[Ptjsk]

LOS cars did not have build sheets like the NOR cars often did. Didnt have X codes either on TT so you're going to have to look for other clues. Drive train components, had to be 4 speed, deluxe bumper guards, tach, etc. Good luck with investigation. I would get NCRS report first to see actual build date and dealer origin.

Boomer you have it backwards on build sheets. LA cars quite often had them and once in a blue moon a Norwood car has them.

This is correct.  Chassis Build Sheets can/may be found on the fuel tanks.  I do have the Chassis Build Sheet that was on top of my fuel tank.  The previous owner (2nd owner of 49 years) I purchased the car from found it when he removed the tank in 2005.  It's in poor shape, but definitely readable and validates the pedigree of my car.  It has the VIN, the options that are Z28 only (UH radiator, CZ Carb, Open air cleaner, 15" wheels and tires, and the 302 motor).  Most definitely worth its weight in gold! 

Pat

[bcmiller]

You can use some lacquer thinner on a rag to clean up that body tag.  No NOT use anything abrasive.

Tag looks to have been disfigured in an engine bay fire.

I would still like to see it without the extra paint.

[David K]

A few things to look for to help move the ball a bit further forward:
Clean the paint off the trim tag
The alternator numbers on the case
The starter numbers
The rear axle numbers on the tube
Not sure if the LOS cars got the X behind the rear seat. If the rear seat has not been out-it could have a broadcast sheet tucked inside.

Even if it’s confirmed a yes it was a Z off the assembly line, what are the plans? Source a DZ engine?

[wdwisser]

All, Sorry for the delay in responding... I've been busy the past week or so with year-end activities.

Anyhow, I believe the rear axle has been replaced, but I will get out to the garage to pull that info. The gas tank has already been out of the car so any paperwork that might have been there is not there, I took the gas tank out this past fall and nothing. The back seat looks to have been out as well as the rear seat belts are gone, but I will need to find time to pull them but the car is currently tucked away for the winter so difficult to get to the interior.

The engine has been replaced by a Chevy 350 but it does still retain some items from the original (e.g. deep groove water pump pulley and alternator pulley.) I will see what the alternator numbers are on that if I can find them. I'm assuming the starter was replaced when the 350 went into it but I can look and see what numbers on that one too.

I tried to find the numbers on the steering idler arm but there is so much dirt and grime on it and it's in an odd position it's hard to clean it up properly. I thought that might give me a clue, too.

The plan would be to source another DZ engine and get it back to "stock" condition as possible.

[william]

It's the pitman arm; 5.75" center to center that was used for fast ratio steering. Also, shorter steering arms.

Speaking from experience, once the drive train is gone a no paperwork Z/28 will never return the investment your plan requires. Getting very tough to find AD wheels [$4,000], 837 alternator [$2,000], et cetera. Your car is very early production, finding the right dates will take years. Today, acquiring every Z-specific part the car needs represents $25k+.

[bcmiller]

Very wise advice from william.

[bcmiller]

My advice, build a 383 to look like a 302, use a period correct M20, 3.55 gears and enjoy it. Put on Z stripes if you want.

[wdwisser]

All, I've purchased a lot of the Z items years ago when I was planning to purchase the vehicle from my uncle prior to his passing. I've already have a period correct 302 DZ block, carb, intake, manifolds, M21 trans, and a lot of engine pieces parts to make it like it was when it came off the assembly line. It is not the exact engine from the car but period correct. I have the AD wheels that came with the car so just trying to piece together if it really was a Z to confirm what I have is a Z. It won't change my plans to continue to put things in as they should be and I am still missing a few pieces (e.g. rear axle probably), maybe the alternator and some other smaller items to make look like it came from the factory.

[bcmiller]

Good luck. Will be hard to prove in was a Z28.

[hpaddict]

obllique lighting can help ID shallow objects on a flat surface.