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Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« on: October 20, 2023, 02:05:53 AM »
We have evidence that some of the LOS-built Z11's and Z28's with spoilers had decklid stripes that extended onto the rear lip of the decklid. On NOR-built cars and early LOS cars, the stripe ended at the spoiler, as shown in the attached picture.
We are looking to define how common of a practice this was at LOS so I'm looking for any original LOS-built cars (or original pictures) out there that show either paint method. Again, this is only relevant to Z28's with factory spoilers or Z11 pace cars. Post the build date if you know it.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2023, 09:47:38 PM »
Oh crud!
Here we go.

Dan & I might be eating Crow-Pie soon huh

Kurt, Dan B (HuggerZ) & I Jim W (169indy) have a friend with a LOS 350-4sp pacer (Body VN286066) (seattle) that is "Orig Paint" & it has stripes below the spoiler.
Mine (Body VN331906) is a 1981 repaint so no data value.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2023, 06:42:29 PM »
I've attached pictures of my rear deck with spoiler. Build sheet includes the D80 package. As you can see stripes continue down
the deck lid. As far as I know its factory paint. The layout dimensions match the assembly manual.
Hope this helps in the discussion.

LOS built 1969 camaro z28 (10D).


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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2023, 07:12:13 PM »
We have evidence that some of the LOS-built Z11's and Z28's with spoilers had decklid stripes that extended onto the rear lip of the decklid. On NOR-built cars and early LOS cars, the stripe ended at the spoiler, as shown in the attached picture.
We are looking to define how common of a practice this was at LOS so I'm looking for any original LOS-built cars (or original pictures) out there that show either paint method. Again, this is only relevant to Z28's with factory spoilers or Z11 pace cars. Post the build date if you know it.

Thanks!
Kurt








Rear antenna?  Was this more for example photo and not an actual representation.?.




I've attached pictures of my rear deck with spoiler. Build sheet includes the D80 package. As you can see stripes continue down
the deck lid. As far as I know its factory paint. The layout dimensions match the assembly manual.
Hope this helps in the discussion.

LOS built 1969 camaro z28 (10D).





Does it not have a decklid emblem?

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2023, 07:34:04 PM »
This is the part that pertains to the photo in Kurt’s original post.


On NOR-built cars and early LOS cars, the stripe ended at the spoiler, as shown in the attached picture.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2023, 10:58:51 PM »
The original post also said, "We have evidence that some of the LOS-built Z11's and Z28's with spoilers had decklid stripes that extended onto the rear lip of the decklid"
So, I was just providing some information about mine. Thank you.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2023, 12:48:15 PM »
Thanks Bryon, I understand what Kurt is asking.  Just wanted confirmation on if the overall photo was an accurate representation.

asm69,
I wasn't trying to call you out just wanted to confirm if the lid had an emblem.  The photo doesn't appear to show one which would lead me to believe the spoiler was added post factory.  Info requested was "this is only relevant to Z28's with factory spoilers or Z11 pace cars. Post the build date if you know it.".  I just didn't want there to be any confusion.  Heck maybe I'm confused.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2023, 02:54:34 PM »
My car is a LOS 10D build. My build sheet has the D80 (spoiler option).  I'm the second owner it never had the Camaro emblem on the
rear deck lid.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2023, 03:12:26 PM »
The original post also said, "We have evidence that some of the LOS-built Z11's and Z28's with spoilers had decklid stripes that extended onto the rear lip of the decklid"
So, I was just providing some information about mine. Thank you.

Yes that’s what we are looking for! Thank you!

I was just trying to provide a little clarification.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2023, 03:46:01 PM »
Didn't realize you had documentation.  Very interesting.  And thank you for clearing up my confusion.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2023, 08:02:52 PM »
don't know if relavent ? just to muddy the water, here's a '69 Z photo dated June '69, looks like the stripes go below the spoiler,

can any one tell what tags are on the car ? perhaps that will tell where it might have been built ?

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2023, 08:10:08 PM »
Just for reference, maybe no help, again know nothing about this one, if it is original paint & stripes, looks to have the script on the

 deck lid.

Looking at it again things don't line up deck lid to spoiler, so likely repaint.


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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2023, 08:21:01 PM »
One more and then I'll go away... ;)   again just for reference, it's most likely a pilot job, press launch at GM proving grounds, looks

 like the stripes continue onto the trunk lid ?

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2023, 12:11:07 AM »
Great picture of the rear deck lid stripes going down the deck lid as well as where the stripes begin
under the rear glass. The picture I posted of my rear stripes start about 4 inches below the
rear glass. Want to say again the rear stripes of my 69 match exactly to the assembly manual.
Thanks for the picts.

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Re: Decklid stripes on 1969 LOS Z28's and pacers
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2023, 05:47:32 PM »
It appears that there's no rear deck "Camaro" emblem as well on the GM proving ground picture.
Is that correct?