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99t
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Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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January 29, 2022, 06:10:24 PM »
Hi, I am restoring a '67 Camaro with a hidden vin number of 180XXX (the vin tag is missing sadly)
From the reading I have done online, this would appear to be early March '67 production?
I am bare metaling the around the trunk opening and found stampings on both rear quarters, which appear to be H4 both sides - I believe this to indicate the last week of January for panel stamping?
Have I understood the likely meanings correctly and does this time gap seem about right?
Thanks
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firstgenaddict
Hero Member
Posts: 2882
caretaker of 1971 LT1's 11130 & 21783
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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January 30, 2022, 03:03:59 AM »
H4 is 4th week of the year and the time frame for the production is well within reason.
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James
Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
Current caretaker of 1971 LT1's - 11130 and 21783 Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://plus.google.com/photos/112392262205377424364/albums?banner=pwa
99t
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Posts: 7
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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Reply #2 on:
January 30, 2022, 10:49:07 AM »
Thanks for that.
Given those dates for the body, roughly what sort of date range might be expected to appear on the trim tag (which I'm already pretty sure isn't correct to the car)?
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firstgenaddict
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caretaker of 1971 LT1's 11130 & 21783
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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January 30, 2022, 06:26:53 PM »
Post a pic of your trim tag if you need more info.
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James
Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
Current caretaker of 1971 LT1's - 11130 and 21783 Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://plus.google.com/photos/112392262205377424364/albums?banner=pwa
99t
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Posts: 7
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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Reply #4 on:
January 31, 2022, 10:22:52 AM »
Image attached. Previous owner removed and refitted when painting firewall 20 years ago, but I think 12E is the end of December..?
No running gear with the car other than a 12-bolt that probably isn't original. Traction bar mounting plate on the passenger floor, bar itself long gone.
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KevinW
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Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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January 31, 2022, 11:05:50 AM »
99t, With the vin tag missing, how are you getting it titled and registered? It would be a shame for you to go through all that work and have issues with registering the car, i.e. stolen, scrapped, state issued vin, etc.
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99t
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Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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January 31, 2022, 11:16:49 AM »
The car was exported from the US in the late 1960's and has been titled and registered here since then without issue. I have been the titled keeper for the last 20 years.
Appreciate exactly what you are saying, I think it is unlikely there will be issues with the car here, only perhaps if one wanted to re-export it back to the US?
I'm restoring it to drive not to sell, and since so little of the original car remains, I will build it "my way" and if I do sell years down the line, I'll make no attempt to present it as anything other than a completely modified vehicle.
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bcmiller
CRG Member
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Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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January 31, 2022, 07:34:54 PM »
If VIN tag is missing, could have been stolen then shipped out of the country to avoid issues.
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Bryon
/ 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016
KurtS
CRG Coordinator
Posts: 5979
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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Reply #8 on:
January 31, 2022, 08:09:09 PM »
Mark,
You've had this car for a long time!
7N180xxx does not line up with NOR63657.
Does the partial VIN and the block agree?
What's the stamped axle code?
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Kurt S
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99t
Newbie
Posts: 7
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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February 01, 2022, 12:00:08 PM »
Yes it has been dry stored as a bare shell for all the time I have owned it, although I do remember the previous owner driving it in the late 90's before he stripped it to restore.
I've been waiting for free time and disposable income to coincide in order to be able to do it justice!
I don't have any of the original running gear to cross-check to, but I would agree with the hypothesis that the car likely had a shady past, prior to export when it was around two years old, as the numbers filed here upon import still tally with those on the car today.
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67conv6cyl
Hero Member
Posts: 503
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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February 02, 2022, 12:57:30 PM »
With head rest seats, shoulder harness, RS SS, 4 speed on trim tag…it seems like car has a dream performance oriented trim tag.
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99t
Newbie
Posts: 7
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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February 02, 2022, 04:07:06 PM »
It's a fair way off any kind of performance just now!
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bcmiller
CRG Member
Posts: 4101
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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February 02, 2022, 06:10:21 PM »
It would be interesting to know the full VIN.
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Bryon
/ 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016
KurtS
CRG Coordinator
Posts: 5979
Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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Reply #13 on:
February 02, 2022, 09:49:17 PM »
There was a MS code block that used to be with the car - is that still with the car?
So the original axle is gone?
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Kurt S
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bertfam
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Re: Body stamp dates vs chassis number
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February 02, 2022, 10:24:02 PM »
I haven't been following this thread so I'm coming in late, but I'm confused. A Norwood VIN of 180xxx would have been assembled in late January, 1967. Not 12E as the tag shows and not March, 1967 as the OP believes. Or am I missing something???
Ed
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