1st 69 Z28

[Kelley W King]

Anyone read the recent magazine article about this car serial #3? A production car with pilot parts, 68 parts. Seems odd a car like that would have a past with no information on how it got from a GM photo car to the street.

[69Z28-RS]

Anyone read the recent magazine article about this car serial #3? A production car with pilot parts, 68 parts. Seems odd a car like that would have a past with no information on how it got from a GM photo car to the street.

I haven't seen the article, but I'd like to...  How about a reference?  or a scan of the article if hardcopy? 

[crossboss]

Anyone read the recent magazine article about this car serial #3? A production car with pilot parts, 68 parts. Seems odd a car like that would have a past with no information on how it got from a GM photo car to the street.

Actually, this happens quite often. Some pre-production cars/magazine/test/ cars do get re-sold in the dealer networks. That said, they are supposed to be crushed because of experimental parts/components that were installed. Most notable were some Ford cars. In one case I remember, a car with an pre-production engine was pulled from the last minute (because it was cancelled), yet it was sold on a used car lot. Im confidant this happened among GM/Chevy also. I also have heard rumors that one 1969 Ram-Air V Pontiac Trans-Am survived the crusher and is in private hands. That said, I would also like to see/read any info on the GM photo car in question.

[MO]

I would also like to know where to find that article.

[crossboss]

A bit off topic, the black prototype ZL-1 Camaro that was posted on this site, is in my opinion one of the best looking Camaros I have ever seen.

[Kelley W King]

The car #3 I posted is in the latest Muscle Machine Magazine. Gary will like it, HO with black top.

[william]

N500003 does not have a vinyl top.

[GMAD_Van Nuys]

I haven't gotten my Hemmings Muscle Machines yet, but I can't imagine a 1969 Z28 production car with 1968 parts.

[crossboss]

I agree. A 1969 'production' car would not have '68 parts...unless they were carryovers.

[169INDY]

N500003 does not have a vinyl top.

MCACN Nov 2019

[william]

Also there about 10 years prior, unrestored.

[169INDY]

Poster Board (Readable?)

[Kelley W King]

I can,t figure away to post a link to the article and the magazine just came and since I get it monthly it probably won,t hit newstands for a while but it is interesting reading. After reading the article I wondered if it was a real Z or a car pulled from the line and made a Z.

[usa1ti]

I can tell you from first hand experience Crossboss is right. 27 years in Teir 1 automotive supply and Several times we traveled to the assembly plants and would pick up pre production/production cars for evaluation or to trouble shoot last minute major problems with production parts. I remember specifically in the mid 90's we went to the BMW Spartanburg plant and picked up #23 Z3 roadster in a box trailer. No VIN. No title and was to be crushed/destroyed. It is still waiting for that. As far as the 68 parts. This is entirely the case in Automotive with a new platform launch. Everything is late and or last minute so to get the first production line tooling / testing done you grab what you have and use what will fit for anything missing. There is no magical #1 car start with all correct, all working parts. Those cars have probably had a lot of rework at some point. I work in retail manufacturing now and we run some things down the assembly line 100 times over and over to get the line smooth. Those parts are sold or given away just like the cars were sometimes with no warranty, title or VIN. There is a lot out there. Have an open mind.

Actually, this happens quite often. Some pre-production cars/magazine/test/ cars do get re-sold in the dealer networks. That said, they are supposed to be crushed because of experimental parts/components that were installed. Most notable were some Ford cars. In one case I remember, a car with an pre-production engine was pulled from the last minute (because it was cancelled), yet it was sold on a used car lot. Im confidant this happened among GM/Chevy also. I also have heard rumors that one 1969 Ram-Air V Pontiac Trans-Am survived the crusher and is in private hands. That said, I would also like to see/read any info on the GM photo car in question.

[GMAD_Van Nuys]

I remember when the first 1982 F-Car came off the production line at the GMAD Van Nuys Plant and it was a white Camaro with a V-6 engine.  I didn't look at the VIN plate.  I found an article on the first 1967 Camaro that was built at Norwood and it was also a base model car:

https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-profiles/the-first-pilot-car-camaro-was-the-start-of-something-big/