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ReaperEd

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Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« on: April 28, 2020, 12:07:35 AM »
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chevrolet/camaro/2332926.html

From description:
Numbers-matching drivetrain incl DZ-code 302ci engine (Apr 25), M21 close-ratio transmission w/matching partial VIN (Apr 24) & 12-bolt 'Q-code' rear end (Apr 22) w/4.10 posi.

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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2020, 04:11:51 AM »
WOW! NICE paint job. But this thing is scary. Funny to see the hand peening on the trans all around the stamp. And that beautiful super clear VIN stamp on the block. I don't have the knowledge to comment on the front pad stamp. But gonna guess it's a restamp... Danny
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2020, 06:51:49 PM »
dash vin tag looks like it was rusty? makes you wonder?
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2020, 07:11:37 PM »
Should have wood grain in steering wheel if rest of interior is correct? At least it's not a wood wheel.  ::)
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 03:43:56 AM »
Another curse of the 10-10 paint code Z28's. Pretty car, the stampings are not up to par with the rest of it.

"Broach marks" appear to have been laid out with a straight edge, far too numerous and way deep. I like the hand peining around the trans stamps - must have taken a few minutes of frantic pounding. JMO -

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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2020, 05:59:32 AM »
Yes, I agree. That tag looks like it was submerged for some time. Or in a car for years with the window gone. Sure is pretty. Danny
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2020, 06:12:42 AM »
Agree it's a very pretty car, and at least they disclosed in the description that it was originally Dover White with std interior. But what does the trim tag show?
Looks like the passenger side e-brake cable might've been rubbing on the inside of the wheel......
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2020, 01:45:26 PM »
That car sold for $236,500 (inc commission) BJ 2006 when is was white with standard black seats. I like it better now and it's half the price!

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Complete concours 100 point nut and bolt rotisserie restoration with no expense spared. The best restored Rally Sport Crossram Z/28 to exist!! Ultra rare JL8, factory 4 wheel disc brakes, matching numbers "D2" 302 cubic inch engine with cross ram intake and carbs. 4 speed manual transmission, 12 bolt positraction rear axle, D80 spoiler equipment, center console with gauges, factory tachometer, deluxe vinyl roof and AM radio. Only 206 JL8 Camaros produced. Look long and close at this pristine example, perfect in every way.

Also wondering how rusty it was based on the severely pitted VIN tag. How much metal could be original?

1969 experts, is that dash VIN hole original? Something about reproductions are different on 69's. square corners vs rounded?
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2020, 04:40:42 PM »
Quote from: 68 Ragtop on April 29, 2020, 01:45:26 PM


is that dash VIN hole original? Something about reproductions are different on 69's. square corners vs rounded?
Original VIN holes have more rounded corners and rolled edges. AMD makes a dash with rounded corners but no rolled edges. Their stamping is also off, so the ViN plate is not centered in the hole. I just went through this on a replacement. Even if you graft in the old VIN plate area you can tell the dash top has been replaced because the speaker hole stamping is different between original and repro.

That car has left fender droop which very few take the time to correct, if they even know it is wrong. Not very good headlight door adjustment either.
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2020, 05:47:25 PM »
Rear axle is clearly a restamp.

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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2020, 06:07:17 PM »
Quote from: WorkinProgress on April 29, 2020, 05:47:25 PM
Rear axle is clearly a restamp.

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And the tube is in exceptionally nice shape, for a car that has a very pitted dash VIN tag
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2020, 07:34:12 PM »
That car sold for $236,500 (inc commission) BJ 2006 when is was white with standard black seats. I like it better now and it's half the price!

Seriously??  :o
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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2020, 07:45:58 PM »
For future searches... VIN is 124379N642448

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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2020, 03:54:14 AM »
Quote from: jdv69z on April 29, 2020, 07:34:12 PM
That car sold for $236,500 (inc commission) BJ 2006 when is was white with standard black seats. I like it better now and it's half the price!

Seriously??  :o

I'd bet the owner trail wished JM had been on contract with B-J that far back, Would've saved somebody a nice pile of change -

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Re: Caveat Emptor ... Transmission stamp
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2020, 06:06:55 PM »
{yes that is correct    i sold the car at barret    for  236,k  so lets bet the car  UP  say  some things that may be untrue ,???   because none  of you can   Sell  one for that kind of money  vin 19N642448   got love   you camaro guys   
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