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william

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Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« on: November 23, 2019, 12:56:57 AM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro/293343881487?hash=item444ca8690f:g:VBQAAOSwYBpd2Geu&vxp=mtr

124379N631498

04C build with an X33D80 body tag. Be sure to check out the diverter valve stamping.
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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2019, 03:25:37 AM »
Funny - item description says black exterior - I must have gone color blind.

GF is a little over-the-top, at least it has a smog system for the crossram emissions. Owner remorse for installing a crossram was to add the smog back on the car ? Really ?

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2019, 05:26:38 AM »
It must be a Z28, DZ is written in crayon on the drivers head!

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2019, 12:34:34 PM »
Has the rare hood hinge springs delete option.  Signs of serious pitting around the t tag and lower A arms.  Must have been a rust bucket.

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2019, 02:00:12 PM »
It has a fiberglass cross-ram hood with prop rod, likely repro. But, no hood pins.
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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2019, 03:39:06 PM »
I agree with the comments regarding the tag being a repro, and the pitting around it. The protect-o-plate looks slightly different than my 08C one. What are your thoughts on that?

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2019, 04:54:53 PM »
I pay no attention to protect-o-plates. It is possible to perfectly reproduce them on original addressograph machines, using NOS GM plates and folders. It is my understanding the NCRS no longer considers them in judging.

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2019, 08:19:23 PM »
I see your point. Bummer thought I had something special since a couple of my cars came with it...😖
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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2019, 11:20:52 PM »
Wow, that car was just done awful. Besides all the forementioned, (which glad you guys wrote,save me the texting)HOW much body fill in that gem?

I cant see that car moving$$

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2019, 03:21:07 AM »
I see your point. Bummer thought I had something special since a couple of my cars came with it...😖

Austin,  I think most of us do believe it's pretty special if you have original PTPs for your original cars...  but a protecto plate is NOT a judged item, and if it's *suspect*, it would not play much of a part in a sale.
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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2019, 06:04:20 AM »
I get it. I know the machines are still out there. I wonder how much of that GM tape is still out there to print on.
(Although I have seen originals without the logo on them)
I would still think for an original car that it would to the value. At least I have the window sticker ...(until they start copying those correctly)...😂
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-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2019, 03:26:20 PM »
I get it. I know the machines are still out there. I wonder how much of that GM tape is still out there to print on.

How many rolls do you want ? Seen these advertised for years, blank plates with the Bowtie, even Addressograph machines - 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3865901-NOS-GM-Protect-O-Plate-Tape-Roll-Chevrolet-Nova-Chevelle-Camaro-Impala/333183154314?epid=657397643&hash=item4d9343788a:g:HG0AAOSwCgFczjeW

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2019, 04:18:20 PM »
I guess I was under the impression, that the tape would have been destroyed, or all used up by now. good link. I sent the seller a question asking why he would provide a product that that helps the fraudsters
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-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2019, 11:15:15 PM »
I believe the seller is a member here.
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Re: Caveat Emptor...another repro tag
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2019, 12:22:50 AM »
The seller of which item? The car or tape?
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