69 Camaro for sale guy says one of two, prove him wrong, I don't know 69 stats

[Lsp3rd1982]

Nice to see you guys talking about my car

 You can say all you want you can assume what you guys want on how many were built the fact is nobody has real numbers  the real numbers are what you have .

I was happy to hear around 20 but  whats the real number anyone know dont assume many were made You have.no proof of that. You have what you got documented..

It doesnt matter what i paid for the car , it doesnt matter the condition the value  worth more then you will dump into this car .. you cant replace this car its  very limited to this date   and they  had  over 20 years to pump the numbers up they havent  sadly these cars are probably  ss clones now.. but we can argue all you want but this is  probably one of the rarest base mo model camaros ever . Its basically a detuned lm1  .. so tell me why would be a 1 in maybe 21 car be worth 5000 ..guy  this is easy high dollar car .. go find one..  i can find z28 all day i can find a ss all day...but can you find this car.... nope...thats why its rare

[Lsp3rd1982]

And ps  the motor in this car would walk all over all the high compression cars with boost the lm1 and l65 compression  was 9.1.. you guys got ripped off buying high compression motor that would blow up with 5 pounds of boost  congrats

[ko-lek-tor]

This site used to have factual content from knowledgeable guys who owned unmolested examples that could be used as reference that would help guys, like you, who don’t know much about these cars, learn all that you could in hopes that with that new found information guys like you could preserve and authenticate these cars.
But now the site is becoming infiltrated with the lowest common denominators and is keeping the knowledgeable guys away because they just don’t want to be part of such nonsense.

[ZLP955]

To the current owner, do you have any documentation that the rear end currently in the car was the one it left the factory with?

[Lsp3rd1982]

It matches the vin
The rear end was built in January
The car was march
The date and numbers come back as a 3.31 12 bolt the lm1 offered. Thats enough to confirm

[Lsp3rd1982]

 People need to understand why they killed the lm1 its because  they made car better then ss350. The lm1 sold over 10,000 cars in what 4 months  in them 4 months what did camaro ss350 sell  they needed to protect their flagship car ... its. Not hard to see that... the lm1 was  threat to the ss killing it was only way the ss 350 would survive..  few cars of the lm1 /l65 car  exist. Without  guessing and assuming  how many do you know that exist  i have 1 how many do you guys have record of    Its safe to say its been 50 years and only numbers you speak seem to exist at this pacee in another 50 years you will have total of 40 lm1/l65 cars so yes this car is extremely rare maybe not be popular  due to marketing , but if you cant produce  number then as an expert you guys are full of it.  Cause you cant say a lot or many without real facts and the facts you have are documented its not a lot so stop lying.

[HustleRussell]

Since the factory transmission is long gone I would think a mc1 Muncie 3 speed would be a better replacement. It is much more rare than the m20. Not more desirable though.

[ZLP955]

It matches the vin
The rear end was built in January
The car was march
The date and numbers come back as a 3.31 12 bolt the lm1 offered. Thats enough to confirm

Axles weren't stamped with a partial VIN, the only was to be certain it's the one the car was built with is if you have documentation or the P-o-P which shows the axle assembly date and ratio; otherwise it's just a period-correct component, that could be OE to the car, but your speculation as to how the car may have been configured (uncommon or not).

[69Z28-RS]

that car is SO rare, I think that only an idiot owner would want to sell it.....   he should take his ads down and keep that car as it's rarity will just continue to increase...   

[jvb6648]

Didn't production of the lm1 end about Janurary 1st and was replaced with L65 and was pre X code.

[Mike S]

Didn't production of the lm1 end about Janurary 1st and was replaced with L65 and was pre X code.

Interesting observation, Jim. I see the TT is a 03D  & X11 and the link Ed posted showed the LM1 "to 12/31/68" and the L65 starting from 1/1/69.
I would speculate the car may have had an L65 or L48 in the 03D period. At least the 3:31 would fit the L48 combo. Without a PP there is no way to be sure.

Mike

[bcmiller]

It’s probably an L65 with the correct 12 bolt. Not common at all, but of course rarity does not always correspond to high dollar.

[Mike S]

Bryon,
   Per the link Ed posted, the 3:31 wasn't shown with the L65, that's why I'm leaning towards an L48 (which shows the 3:31 as an option).

Mike

[bcmiller]

Mike,

Kurt can correct me if I am wrong, but that table does not have the 12 bolt ratios listed for the L65. The performance ratio for the 10 bolt was 3.36 - so the closest to that would be 3.31 with a 12 bolt. Engine block in the car appears to be an L65 - original to the car.

I have learned a few things about the L65 cars in the past few months. And that’s good!

[Mike S]

  Interesting about the 12 bolts, Bryon. So, I guess you "guys" aren't "full of shit" after all 


Mike