396/350 pace car on eBay

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Pace-Car/283026683778?hash=item41e5b47782:g:zb0AAOSw0lVbFIdc

Is anyone familiar with this car?  No paperwork, any way to verify this is a real 396/350 4 speed AC car?

Gary

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Anyone?  Thoughts about this car?

[bertfam]

If you're interested in this car, you'll need to get good (high resolution) pictures of the engine pad, the transmission stamping and the rear axle stamping.

Ed

[william]

Average restoration, little attention to chassis/engine bay detailing. Ignore the '1 of 79' claim; no one knows how many were built.

Some issues noted:

Missing wood trim on dash cluster
Stereo speakers; monaural radio
Missing A/C seal on core support
Air cleaner seal upside down
Missing convertible door jamb bumpers
Missing front spoiler center bracket
Missing lower fan shroud
Wheels incorrectly painted
Aftermarket shifter
Missing resonators
Fuel tank straps should be black; should not have insulators
Top of dash replaced with poor repro
Incorrect rear spring anchors; aftermarket rear springs
Front side marker bezels should not have gaskets
Poor fit of grille, fenders, head lamp covers
Not a convincing VIN stamping on block

[jdv69z]

I like the comment about the factory interior being really attractive. My recollection of the interior at the time was that it was too loud. Time has changed that perception, but I think the interior is one of the reasons they did not sell that many pace cars originally.

[firstgenaddict]

There was one in Florida about 5 years ago that Lawrence Shaw was looking at also 04C, 350HP Pacer 4 speed Engine was correct trans was replacement I will check to see if it had ac. IIRC it was 55k asking or would take...

[william]

I like the comment about the factory interior being really attractive. My recollection of the interior at the time was that it was too loud. Time has changed that perception, but I think the interior is one of the reasons they did not sell that many pace cars originally.

That, and they were expensive. A Z11 with few elective options [console, auto, power steering, AM radio] had an msrp of around $4,200. That was a lot in those days; a basic Z/28 listed for around $3,700.

A family member bought a new '69 Camaro SS in October '69; a Z11 was still in stock. He didn't want it either.

[WorkinProgress]

                               "All parts used in the restoration were date code correct, including the hard to find radiator."

How hard is it to find a repro radiator? Angle of top hose neck on this car is way off. On original radiators the neck only fits in one way so the angle was always correct.

                                                                                    - Warren

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Thank you for the detailed feedback.  I know 69 BB vettes like the back of my hand after going through NCRS National judging and Bloomington Gold.  I have been on the hunt for a 69 396 4 speed car with factory AC for quite a while.  Unfortunately this one has no paperwork and lots of things that can be corrected, but it is priced as if it has been certified.

Gary

[KurtS]

And I don't like what I see with that partial VIN on the engine.....

124679N635536