CRG Shifter Report

[HustleRussell]

Awesome information Kurt & Martin. This is the most awesome website on the net IMO. However the shifter handle in my 69 MC1 Camaro has the word "MUCICIE" stamped in it, which disagrees with yall's research. So I'll assume either my shifter handle is not original or the MC1 transmission is so rare it might have been over looked. I'm looking forward to JKZ27 aka John chiming in as he is the only other member on this website that I know of having a MC1 transmission.

[bcmiller]

Awesome information Kurt & Martin. This is the most awesome website on the net IMO. However the shifter handle in my 69 MC1 Camaro has the word "MUCICIE" stamped in it, which disagrees with yall's research. So I'll assume either my shifter handle is not original or the MC1 transmission is so rare it might have been over looked. I'm looking forward to JKZ27 aka John chiming in as he is the only other member on this website that I know of having a MC1 transmission.

What is the build month and week of your car?

[HawkX66]

Kurt, I noticed in the shifter ball section you didn't have a 69 ball listed. Is the chrome ball listed as a 68 actually a 69?

[JKZ27]

Thanks for the great report fellas!

My MC1 handle does have MUNCIE stamped on it. I would guess Kurt is aware of the MC1 Muncie handle but maybe overlooked it during the write up because most of the 69 3 speeds were Saginaw which received a blank handle. Also, I wouldn't say the MC1 was rare it was just unpopular. And, as Kurt has said, most have been converted to a 4 speed by now which makes them rare today. The only real telltale might be the square shifter hole.

[HustleRussell]

My MC1 Camaro was build last week in February NOR.

[HustleRussell]

transmission & shifter.

[JKZ27]

Kurt, I noticed in the shifter ball section you didn't have a 69 ball listed. Is the chrome ball listed as a 68 actually a 69?

Dave, I see the 69 knobs and descriptions are listed but there are just no pictures.

[bcmiller]

Thanks Russ. We will take a look.

The MC1 was a Muncie 3 speed, so I guess it is possible it used a Muncie shifter handle.

[ko-lek-tor]

When did the Firebird start using the same Hurst shifters as the 69 Camaro? Is the answer: since the 1st Bird (67)?

[JoeC]

Firebird used the Muncie shifter in 1967 and the Hurst in 1968

Pontiac began a long history with Hurst beginning with GTO and LeMans  using  a round stick Hurst shifter in 1964

[68camaroz28]

Went thru the report and as many have stated well done and an excellent report. Jerry and Joe had helped (thanks again Jerry and Joe) with my Muncie set up as the stabilizer bar was missing and I ended up with all three and found it difficult to research. This CRG report is going to assist many when both identifying correct parts and restoration.
Thanks Kurt, Martin and all involved.....

[JoeC]

On the Muncie shifter chrome sticks where some Muncie trans cars were found without the MUNCIE stamp. This question has been around for many years and is hard to say if the car came from the factory that way or not.

One thing I found interesting was back in the 1980s I bought a NOS Muncie shifter from a swap meet. The seller was a Chevy dealer mechanic and was selling off NOS items to clear out the dealer stock room. He told me he remembered replacing many Muncie shifters due to customer complaints of poor shifting. There was a part number where you can order a replacement shifter. It was the chrome stick and shifter body but no rods or mount plate or other parts,

I have had a few of these NOS units over the years, so that tells me the dealers did use these to some degree.

I had some with the Muncie stamp and some without.

I still see these come up for sale occasionally. This one was on ebay recently.

last pic, Some factory installed shifters have  a yellow paint inspection mark on them but I don't see it on the replacement units.

[jdv69z]

So attached is a pic of the Hurst shifter from my 69 Z, build 10B, Oct 68. Shifter is dated  6  8B2. The 6 is hard to see. That's Jun 1968, correct? According to the article, my shifter is date coded for a Firebird? Did I read that right?

[bcmiller]

Your shifter date is June of 68. Probably original for your car.

Shifters are date coded, not necessarily for application. The one in the article used is one I have and I knew where it was from. We may swap that particular pic out for a different one.

[ko-lek-tor]

So attached is a pic of the Hurst shifter from my 69 Z, build 10B, Oct 68. Shifter is dated  6  8B2. The 6 is hard to see. That's Jun 1968, correct? According to the article, my shifter is date coded for a Firebird? Did I read that right?

X2 on 68B2 off my 12B. I am/was beginning to be concerned that this shifter was not the OE. Not so sure now. Seems unlikely 2 have the same dates, but 6 months?. Anyone else?