8 track tape holder 993579

[bertfam]

Does anyone have a template or location dimensions for the holes drilled into the console lid?

It's in the AIM (UPC U57, Sheet A3, View A)

Ed

[abiddle]

Thanks Ed, I knew I had seen it somewhere. The AIM shows both holes 1.38 in, but I had convinced myself that every picture I have seen had the back hole smaller than the front, although I don't know for what purpose they would do that. It will be easier with both holes are the same size, maybe its just an optical illusion.

Thanks - Andy

[bertfam]

Yeah, there wouldn't be any need to make one hole smaller than the other, but you're right. The rear hole DOES appear to be smaller.

Ed

[KevinW]

kevinw do you have a radio also? I noticed your ipod. jvrestorations serviced and restored my original AM radio, and added an ipod wire from the back of the unit where you can't see it. I probably would never use it since the AM radio only plays out of the single dash speaker. We considered adding an ipod connection to the 8track since it could be hidden in the console and play from the 4 speakers, but the ipod could only play when a tape engaged in the 8track (how the 8track knows to steal the power from the AM radio). I could have done this with an empty tape, but I honestly just don't listen to an ipod anymore. I have a stock of 8 tracks ready for whenever he returns my player.

Yes, I had a spare non working AM radio converted to AM/FM/IPOD by a guy in South Jersey.  Then I put a 4-channel amp under the dash, with inputs from the radio and 8-track.  The amp turns on with the radio.  But with the radio off, I just just hit a small switch next to the 8-track to turn on the amp (and 8-track), then insert a tape.  Works pretty well, just have to remember to turn off the amp before I shut off the car or else the battery drains No speaker in the dash, I have them in the kicks and on the rear seat (and subwoofer in the trunk).

I documented the build here: http://www.camaros.net/forums/31-convertibles/232097-convertible-custom-stereo-install.html

[KevinW]

Oh and the most important part!  Found out my 37 amp alternator will NOT work with all this electronics   If I total up the stereo amps alone, it was around 44 amps, doh!  Had a local shop take my 37 amp alt and put 75 amp internals inside.  So stock looking, but not stock

[KurtS]

How did you come up with 44 amps? That's not a realistic number. Put a meter on it and you'll find that it's way way under that 99% of the time.

[KevinW]

I did the calc a while ago, but 75W amp, Powered Sub 75W, 25W radio, 4 speakers.  Who knows, I might have done the calc wrong, but the 37amp was not keeping up with the charge especially since engine RPMs are way low (I have overdrive) and I tend to crank up the volume withe the top down  

[68L30]

I have a set on my 68. Though not correct, my car is a extremely late 68 and I said what the hell.  They are dealer installed anyway, and have been on my car the last 30 years. 

Steve

[69Z28-RS]

Does anyone have a template or location dimensions for the holes drilled into the console lid? I have several pics, so I can probably get pretty close just by placing the bracket.

That appears to be another means of ruining a good console lid, along with having a fat butt gal sit on it..

Reminds me...  I need to dig out the old 4-track and 8-track tapes and put them on ebay.. 

[Mark]

And for the benefit of the group, here's a layout of the wires for an AM radio and 8track setup.

You are missing one wiring extension harness that fits between the speaker output wiring from the 8 track and the under dash speaker harness.  The 8 track wiring will not reach all the way up under the dash, it ends just forward of the shifter, so GM made up a short  18" or so long harness to extend it all the way up to the area above the radio where the dash harness ends.  I found this out when I went to install my console mounted 8 track (you don't need it if you have a dash mounted version.  I had to go to M&H wiring to get it,  it is M&H part number 35939 (equates to GM part number 6295249).

[abiddle]

Thanks Mark, I see the part on M&H $44 (STEREO TAPE PLAYER & MULTIPLEX SPEAKER EXT.) No pic But I wonder if jvrestorations gave me extra length on the speaker wire, I think he built the harness. Since I went to the expense of redoing everything as original, I should probably just order it. And do you have a pic of the correct heat sink bracket?

Hey Steve that looks great. I also have the deluxe interior, does the molded armrest get in the way of inserting the tapes into the holder? Is that a repro 8track player pad? And did you choose to paint your 8track player to match your interior, I always thought these would remain black but I'm thinking now that I'm wrong? Yours is the third example I've seen with the 8track player painted, the other two were on ebay so I didn't give it much thought.

Thanks - Andy

[68L30]

It's the original pad and has always been dyed. My player was painted too. Most of the ones I find are minus the pad, but, you can clearly see a paint line from when they were dyed. My pad has never been separated from top, very hard to find.

The moulded arm rests do cover some of the tape holder, but I can still manage to insert tapes. Make sure the foam is still inside the holders, the rattle of the tapes will make you nutz.

Steve

[68L30]

Convector and bracket

[68L30]

Inside lid w/ holes

[68L30]

Xtra player assy