One hidden vin different

[BSMIT59]

Well put Kurt. Sometimes our inherent human nature flaws rear their ugly heads when we don't get the answers we want to hear........  This is undoubtedly the most informational site addressing the 1st Gens to be found anywhere. You guys please keep up the good work.

[69Z28-RS]

The OP (desmreed) stated in one of his earlier post:
"Again I bought this car 36 years ago for $1000 when it wasn't that special, just an older car."

He asked for our opinions and advice, and we gave it to him.. He'd be well served to pay attention before he invests additional time/$ into that car.  As it turns out, there IS something *special* about that car, but probably not in a 'good special' way.  He should have figured this out for himself, but in case he hasn't.. I'll say it more bluntly here.   He 'probably' purchased a stolen car in 1980 which had been disguised by altering the VIN/cowltag/engine, potentially years before he purchased it.   The original person who did that should show up in the record of prior owners. 

[1968RSZ28]

The OP has deleted all the above photos from his Photobucket account.

For future reference, the two VINs involved with this car are 123377N100143 & 124377N150322

Paul 

[jdv69z]

So if a stolen car, would it show up somewhere as stolen with either of the two VIN's?

[69Z28-RS]

That's a good question; based on the OP's post, it would have happened before 1980... and that's a long time ago! 
If it was stolen (and disguised) the correct VIN for the stolen car would be the hidden VIN behind the heater blower housing.  That was well before the internet and servers saving *everything*, so it probably would only show up in old paper records in whatever state it happened in.

[1968RSZ28]

So if a stolen car, would it show up somewhere as stolen with either of the two VIN's?

Possible, but more like with the 124377N150322 VIN.  I Googled both VINs and came up with nothing.  I ran both VINs through the NICB database and both VINs are clear.  I also ran both VINs through the NMVTIS database and both came back as VIN not found.  The OP said he purchased this car 36 years ago, so records might be tough to dig up. 

Paul

[Sauron327]

I'm not sure what happened here exactly, but years ago it was very common to switch VINs to a donor car if the original got totaled and was owned outright. Throw the registration in the glovebox and giddy up for no other reason than to simply put a car back on the road. I've also had hidden VINs run for me recently and one came up stolen and recovered in the 80's. Rosette rivets were not as hard to come by as people may think.

[69Z28-RS]

Where were rosette rivets used on a '67???

[Sauron327]

Where were rosette rivets used on a '67???

The VIN tag.

[69Z28-RS]

I thought '67's had stainless plates welded/soldered to the A pillar....?

[1968RSZ28]

I thought '67's had stainless plates welded/soldered to the A pillar....?

Nope, in 1967 the VIN plate is riveted to the driver-side A-pillar and is visible when the driver-side door is open.

Looks like this...



Paul

[69Z28-RS]

Thanks..  so it is stainless and where I thought it was but not welded/soldered, but riveted with a special rivet.  What year did they begin with that rivet?

[1968RSZ28]

What year did they begin with that rivet?

Gary, IIRC, GM started using the rosette style rivets to hold the VIN tag in place beginning January 1965.

Paul

[69Z28-RS]

Thanks Paul..  I've never owned one of those years... so thus my ignorance..

[Sauron327]

Rosettes are on my 66 GTO and 67 Chevelle. Not exclusive to Camaros.