LM-1 original wheels

[lemarin]

My car is an LM-1 350 V8, built date 09B, Daytona yellow.

I bought the car without the original wheels. For now, I bought a set of Rally wheel replica, 15x7 and they drive great as daily. I'm thinking to find a set of original wheel, to be use for show mostly. I believe the car arrived originally with 14x6 steel wheel, and my car has drum brakes on all 4 corners.

My question is: what should be the original wheels on an LM-1 option car ? Which one we're the most commun ?

1-14x6 Rally wheel (code XN)
2-14x6 steel wheel (code FC) with P-01 full wheel cap
3-Poverty center cap (not sure what's the code for the steel wheel) ??

From picture I can find, it seems that many COPO 69 Camaro arrived with the Poverty center cap. I couldn't find any picture of a Daytona yellow Camaro with Poverty center cap. Was it mostly reserve for COPO ?

What would be the most appropriated wheel/center cap combo for my LM1 Daytona yellow ?

[william]

There is no way to know which wheel/cover/tire was originally on your car. Standard equipment would have been 14 x 6 wheels painted body color with a standard hub cap. If the car was ordered with any of the 4 optional wheel covers the wheels would have been painted black. It may have been ordered with rally wheels; brakes were not a factor.

The standard hub cap has nothing to do with either COPO. It was just that; the standard wheel treatment for any Camaro. Many COPOs were ordered with either 14 x 7 or 15 x 7 rally wheels.

[lemarin]

I know I can't find exactly what was originally on my car, but I'd go with the stats and buy the most common setup.

I remember seeing stats about the options/wheels sold, for the whole years. Anyone still have this information ?

I just don't want to put wheels that couldn't be there from the factory back then

[vtfb68]

Lemarin,
 XN coded 14 x 6 rally wheels are for drum brake cars,  XG wheels came with disc brakes. 14 x 7 69's would be nice.
   VT

[lemarin]

Lemarin,
 XN coded 14 x 6 rally wheels are for drum brake cars,  XG wheels came with disc brakes. 14 x 7 69's would be nice.
   VT

I know that, that's exactly what I wrote down: XN=Rally 14x6 wheel for drum, FC=steel wheel 14x6 for drum.

This lead me to another question: does the poverty centre cap fit to an FC code wheel ? If not, which code is required for the poverty centre cap ?

[ko-lek-tor]

Yes, FC is the wheel you want for the small "Dogdish" cover. It is the right wheel for all hubcaps small and large full covers If you did not select an optional wheel cover (hub cap), you got the standard dogdish cover on a steel wheel, FC in your case.

[KevinW]

Lemarin, you have the codes correct.  for a 4 drum, you need XN or FC wheels.  I have a 4 drum car too (Oct 68).  It has Sept 69 XNs on there now, but have dated FC wheels to go on.  If you look at original dealer photos you see most 69s came with thin whitewalls and hubcaps, the rally wheels were more money, so the dealer stock orders generally did not get them.  The poverty caps came on cars that had no wheel option checked (they were the default). 

[lemarin]

Ok, great and thanks for all your posts. I already bought a set of 4 wheell cap, like this one:


2 of those are in perfect shape, so I may have to find 2 more in mint condition.

I'm also looking everywhere for a set of FC coded wheels, with built date before september 68. Hard to find....

And about the tires, I already started another thread many months ago, and most of the people mentions that the closest tires to original, are the Goodyear F70/14 Custom Wide Tread Raised White Lettering No Size. But they dont' have a white sidewall.....


So maybe the Firestone Wide Oval Pin White Stripe - F70-14 would be a better choice ?

[Vince]

I know I can't find exactly what was originally on my car, but I'd go with the stats and buy the most common setup.

I remember seeing stats about the options/wheels sold, for the whole years. Anyone still have this information ?

I just don't want to put wheels that couldn't be there from the factory back then

I'm quoting from the Camaro White Book.  They list the following optional wheels and/or wheel covers sold in 1969:

N95 Wheel Covers, simulated wire------2,118
N96 Wheel Covers, mag style------------2,886
PA2 Wheel Covers, mag spoke style-----1,362
P01 Wheel Covers, bright metal----------106,386
P06 Wheel Trim Rings, use with standard hubcaps-2,401
ZJ7 Wheels, rally----------------------------48,735

Hope this helps.

[lemarin]

So from my understanding, the P01 and Rally wheel we're by far the most popular choices, poverty cap was not so popular....only 2401 sold.

[Bigjon427]

Lemarin, I have a set of FC wheels dated May 68 if that is close enough.

[KurtS]

http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Wheels
http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml#wcovers
RPO #'s - http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml#RPOSpreadsheet

[lemarin]

Lemarin, I have a set of FC wheels dated May 68 if that is close enough.

PM sent

[KevinW]

PM my for the hubcaps, have a lot, just need to see if 2 match your others.

[Vince]

I think another way to look at the optional wheel covers and the stats I posted in my prior post is that if you add up all the wheel covers and the rally wheels, but not count the P06 trim rings, and subtract this figure from the total of 1969 Camaros produced I came up with 81,598 that would have come with just the standard hubcap of which 2,401 of these came with the optional wheel trim ring.  This trim ring would have come of course automatically on rally wheels, I think, and not have been an extra cost option.