Production numbers on RS Z28's?

[X33RS]

Or a percentage of total Z28 production might be an easier number to throw out possibly?  I'm thinking the percentage is much larger than a friend of mine is telling me.

Are those numbers posted on the site somewhere?  I'm sure this has been discussed in detail at some point.  If so I'm sorry if I'm wasting someones time, just point me in the right direction please.

[X33RS]

Nevermind, I found something I was looking for that's close enough.

[BULLITT65]

Well an easy way to narrow it down is take the total number of 1969 Camaros produced (243,085) and divide by number of RS optioned cars(37,733) = about 6.442% X (Z/28) production (20,302) = at least 1308 RS Z/28 cars .

Now one thing to keep in mind is a majority of production were base cars with little or no options, these are the easiest for the salesman at the dealers to move since they have the least options and they are the cheapest. So I wouldn't be surprised if the real number was more like 4000 RS Z/28. A customer that had some money to work with could obviously check off more option boxes...

Here is the website that shows production numbers for 69:

:http://www.thecamaro.com/Production/1969-Camaro-Production-Totals-and-RPO-Numbers.php

Kinda fun to check out the production numbers vs options

[bcmiller]

I don't have a solid answer for you, but there is no easy way to do the math.

I would GUESS that at LEAST 25 percent of Z28s were also RS cars.  But I have nothing to back that up. They were 2 options that went together more than you would think. 

[william]

Well an easy way to narrow it down is take the total number of 1969 Camaros produced (243,085) and divide by number of RS optioned cars(37,733) = about 6.442% X (Z/28) production (20,302) = at least 1308 RS Z/28 cars .

Now one thing to keep in mind is a majority of production were base cars with little or no options, these are the easiest for the salesman at the dealers to move since they have the least options and they are the cheapest. So I wouldn't be surprised if the real number was more like 4000 RS Z/28. A customer that had some money to work with could obviously check off more option boxes...

Here is the website that shows production numbers for 69:

:http://www.thecamaro.com/Production/1969-Camaro-Production-Totals-and-RPO-Numbers.php

Kinda fun to check out the production numbers vs options

The total number of ’69 Camaros built as rally-sports is 37,773. Divided by total production of 243,085 is 15.5%. Still not the best way to look at it as 4,000 or so of the rally-sports were Z10 or Z11. So that’s 33,773/239,085 or about 14%; 2,867 Z/28-RS using statistical interpolation. It’s nothing more than a guess.

I’m with Mr. Miller. After 40 years of involvement with ‘69s to me there is nothing at all rare about a ’69 Z/28-RS and I would not be surprised if the number was 25%.

[X33RS]

Excellent info guys, more than I could find or even hope for.  Thanks again.

I was thinking myself that it wasn't all that rare and probably around 20% of Z28 production or there about.  That's pretty close to the numbers you guys are figuring here.  Either way, it's waaaay more than what a friend is trying to lead me to believe (something like 3% or just a few hundred)   I figured there were quite a few thousand made.

I see it's broken down in Jerry's 67 and 68 fact books but I don't see mention of it in the 69 fact book.

Thanks for the link Bullitt, as soon as I figure out how to get that in my browser I'll check it out.

[bcmiller]

We also have a link to the production numbers and options broken down by year, cost and production on our CRG page.  Here is the PDF link. You can zoom in as needed to make the font display larger.

http://www.camaros.org/pdf/options.pdf

[X33RS]

Ah, thanks Mr. Miller.  Very detailed.  I haven't seen that page before.  I guess I haven't figured out how to navigate the site.  I go to the home page and can't really find many options to click around.  It appears I'm stuck in the discussion forum section for some reason, lol.

[BULLITT65]

Well I blew it on the numbers, forgot to factor in the Z10 and Z11. Out of of 20,302 Z/28 production I would still guess about 4000 to 5000 had the RS option, might be as high 7000 though.

thanks for the correction.

[bcmiller]

Ah, thanks Mr. Miller.  Very detailed.  I haven't seen that page before.  I guess I haven't figured out how to navigate the site.  I go to the home page and can't really find many options to click around.  It appears I'm stuck in the discussion forum section for some reason, lol.

If you want - go to the main page.  http://www.camaros.org/

Then from that main page, you can click on the different areas where text is displayed.  For example, there are sections on Exterior, Interior, Underhood, Engine, Transmission, etc. near the top.  Then toward the bottom of the page more links such as Technical Articles, Research Topics, About The CRG, etc.  

LOTS of stuff to view when you have extra time.  

[X33RS]

Wow, thanks Mr. Miller.  I never knew.  My links just bring me to the forums and seems I've been stuck here.  I have some reading to do 

[69Z28-RS]

From my time playing with these cars during the late '60's and early '70's...  I don't recall seeing very many '69 RS-Z28's at all.    OTOH, I do remember seeing most of the RS options attached to SS Camaros, or base V8 Camaros...  the RS option was a way to make the car look good.   Most Z28 buyers wanted their car to 'go fast'.. ..   they were also predominantly young men, who had more 'need for speed', than $$.   I'd also bet that a very large percentage of Z28 buyers were servicemen... (as MOST young men were in the service during that period - or college (but their money went to tuition) - and the servicemen had a place to sleep and food for 'free', so all we had to spend our money on were cars, insurance, and gas (leaving out other necessities such as booze and girls)!..

[jdv69z]

What I find interesting about this discussion is how the paradigm has changed with regard to the 69 Z. As a teenager, my recollection was that while I did see Z/28's their sightings were much less frequent than say SS Camaros and 396 Chevelles. The Chevelles seemed to be everywhere. I can only remember seeing 1 Z/28 RS. In fact, the mythology back then in my area, was that there was no such thing as a Z/28 RS. When I bought my Z RS in 1982, a supposed "friend" of mine had the need to call me and inform me that mine mine had to be a fake, since "they never made it". Maybe someday there will be enough data to do a vaild statistical analysis, like has been done for the 67's.

[bcmiller]

From my time playing with these cars during the late '60's and early '70's...  I don't recall seeing very many '69 RS-Z28's at all.    OTOH, I do remember seeing most of the RS options attached to SS Camaros, or base V8 Camaros...  the RS option was a way to make the car look good.   Most Z28 buyers wanted their car to 'go fast'.. ..   they were also predominantly young men, who had more 'need for speed', than $$.   I'd also bet that a very large percentage of Z28 buyers were servicemen... (as MOST young men were in the service during that period - or college (but their money went to tuition) - and the servicemen had a place to sleep and food for 'free', so all we had to spend our money on were cars, insurance, and gas (leaving out other necessities such as booze and girls)!..

Gary, that is going to depend a lot on WHERE you are talking about.  That may be the case where you were at the time, but not around here. 

I may start a poll on the site to see who has what.  It won't be scientific, but it might be interesting.

[bcmiller]

Poll is in this thread / link.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=13395.0