1969 SS 350

[navan]

I am a newbie here, thanks in advance for your help. I traded a motorcycle for a camaro long ago. I need the "documentation" to sell it for big bucks. Is there any help for me out there?

Traded for camaro in 1978, it's been garaged since, over time it's been restored to what it should have been in 1984 when it was last registered. An original SS 350 4-speed, motor is a 1967 327 30 over, large journal forged steel crank, camelback .194 intakes,polished and ported, 11:1 speed pro pistons,... .. but I digress. It is a custom motor, but a period correct rev monster.
Also all new suspension, springs, brakes ,fuel tank and lines, ...

Is there an organization out there that can help??   vin #124379N570193 1969 Camaro SS 350

[MyRed67]

Welcome on board navan.  First off, a 67 327 motor would not ave had a large journal crank.  If indeed it is a large journal crank I would say you probably have a 350 block.

[navan]

1967 TRUCK BLOCK, THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT .

[navan]

The motor is custom built 2-bolt main, we built it to match original lt1 specs, with liberties taken. My post isn't about the motor, more about the car itself. Who are the mysterious "they" when it comes to "documentation"

[68 Ragtop]

You can pay an expert $1000 plus travel expenses to fly in and check it for you, or you can try and decode it yourself with a little help by posting more information here and asking questions.

Let's star with the trim tag on the fire wall. Can you post a picture of it?

As far as "I need the "documentation" to sell it for big bucks", its not a numbers matching car because its missing the original engine, so collectors are probably not interested. The good news is that an enthusiast still pay good money for nice cars.

[BULLITT65]

Welcome on board navan.  First off, a 67 327 motor would not ave had a large journal crank.  If indeed it is a large journal crank I would say you probably have a 350 block.

If it was a high out put 68 327 it could have a large journal steel crank. "All 300hp and below 327 engines were produced with a cast iron crankshaft. All others were forged steel." According to Chevrolet by the numbers.

I agree with 68 Ragtop, a clean Camaro will still bring a respectable amount of money, but I am not sure you would recoup the extra money spent saying an expert to say it is an original SS car since it doesn't have the original motor. A COPO, Yenko, Big block SS, or Z you would garner enough money to justify the expert, IMO.

Do you know where the original block may be? This would be the way to get the "big bucks" .

[KurtS]

There is no magic source for documentation. See http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#MyCarHistory

1967 TRUCK BLOCK, THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT .

There were no large journal blocks in 67 other than the Camaro SS350 block, btw.

[KurtS]

If it was a high out put 68 327 it could have a large journal steel crank. "All 300hp and below 327 engines were produced with a cast iron crankshaft. All others were forged steel." According to Chevrolet by the numbers.

I don't believe a factory large journal steel 327 crank was ever made. Look thru CBTN - there's none listed.....

[cook_dw]

283, 327 & 302 were small journal.  350 large.

[BULLITT65]

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If it was a high out put 68 327 it could have a large journal steel crank. "All 300hp and below 327 engines were produced with a cast iron crankshaft. All others were forged steel." According to Chevrolet by the numbers.

I don't believe a factory large journal steel 327 crank was ever made. Look thru CBTN - there's none listed.....

I did see a lot of 327 blocks listed, it doesn't specify in each block description large journal or small journal crank. But when you look at the crank description he does describe one steel large journal crank as being used in 327 above 300 horse. Maybe it was a typo.

Isn't the author (Alan Colvin)  a liason member on CRG? maybe he could clarify?

[navan]

I appreciate all responses. I could be wrong in two ways; my memory of it being large journal forged steel crank, or my memory of it being a chev truck motor. I think it might have been a 1967 GMC truck motor. The motor was built in 1983 and still runs strong after 30 years of storage . The original block was gone in 1979 when I bought it./Users/mine/Desktop/100_0906.JPG

[navan]

Can't seem to post photo.   Tag reads from left to right;  ST69 12437 NOR218357BDY, TR  711  57 57 PNT,  12D  X11. 
 I know without the original motor value is limited ,but proof of it being an original SS 4 speed and documentation of some sort might help. At least prove it's no clone.

[68 Ragtop]

With 124 VIN prefix, X11 can be base V8 or SS350 V8.

An original correctly dated Muncie 4 speed with matching partial VIN stamp, along with date correct 12 bolt multi leaf rear end would be a good start to proving SS.

[KurtS]

283, 327 & 302 were small journal.  350 large.

I assume you are talking 67.

There was only two years (68-9) of large journal 327's.
I think I am wrong - there were some hi-po (L79) 327's in 68. I thought they had gone to 350's but that happened in 69.

[navan]

I got the motor from a wrecking yard I seem to remember it was from a 1967 GMC pickup 275 hp 327. used the block, crank and heads, 1.94 fuelers, the rest is aftermarket. I might be remembering wrong, but I'm old.  It seems to have become a game of trivial pursuit.
I found gmheritagecenter.com and found some interesting info. Are there other sources similar to this?
 There is so much information online I am glad I found your site, so much knowledge and access to experts who actually respond...priceless!!!

Thank You for the replies, looking forward to more.