Is it a 1969 Z/28?

[KurtS]

I think it's a Z, but with the axle being replaced too (Nov axle in a Sept car), proof is minimal.

[BULLITT65]

Good catch, I didn't realize it was that early of a car.

[william]

You did ask for opinions so here's mine: make a hot rod out of it.

Just putting 5 dated AD wheels on it [IF you can find them] with repro E70s will approach $4000. Any 'date correct' engine you find will have some other VIN on it. I think you will have more fun and enjoyment doing a PT or Day 2 build and in the long run it may be more valuable. I've seen a number of them do very well at auction.

What we used to tell people at the business 25 years ago remains true. If you have your heart set on a numbers-matching Z/28 that's what you should buy. You really can't piece one together.

[BULLITT65]

I agree with William for the most part. Build the car you want, or get this car together and sell it to purchase the car you want.

[janobyte]

3:07 would have to be a bit of a slug behind a 302, even with a steeper 1st...have to be a "granny" gear.

[z28z11]

Out of curiousity, what color was the car ? Any remnants of the top cowl painting ? Depending on the stripe color, might be another clue if you can find the beginning paint layer.

I looked at a shell years ago that the then-owner didn't have clue as to what the car was built as (missing drivetrain except for the 12 bolt and four leafs), disc brakes, dual exhaust plate, single 3/8" fuel line, correct Pitman and Muncie cable routing, and an all-white cowl top. Car got away before I could buy it, obviously an early non-X code (late November) Z if I've ever seen one. Hate the ones that get away (when the stars just don't line up !).

Regards,
Steve

[jstanley]

The car according to the cowl tag was garnet red with a red interior and a white vinyl top, the car is currently red with the stripes. I am planning to sand the trunk lid and hood to see if I can identify the stripes on the original paint.

[x77-69z28]

Is it a Norwood car. Look for a crayon mark behind the rear seat bulkhead. Should find the X code there.

[jdv69z]

I second that on the X code behind the seat. My Oct 68 build Z has it. If it was originally red with white vinyl, the stripes would be white. just so happens to be what my Z is, red with white stripes and white vinyl. I've not seen another 69 Z this combination. Mine's also RS.

[KurtS]

If you do go the original route, I'd note William's advise and not sweat the details. 15x7 rally's are cheap, correct AD's are not. Etc.

[BULLITT65]

I think the 15" FW wheels are a close match. I have seen sets (of 4) for about 200. If you continue to scout around you could gather other parts that look or perform similar to the original Z stuff and have a fun car.

[69Z28-RS]

I think the 15" FW wheels are a close match. I have seen sets for about 200. If you continue to scout around you could gather other parts that look or perform similar to the original Z stuff and have a fun car.

I've bought 15x7 FW wheels in pairs for as little $20-25 each at swap meets the past couple of years...  you just have to look and scrounge..   ($40-50 each is probably closer to the 'market price' - what most people ask for them as bare wheels).

Here is a link from past CRG discussions which itemizes the exact differences between YH and FW wheels.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10686.0

[X33RS]

What I haven't seen mentioned is when the AD wheels were phased out and the YH wheels started to appear??  It's not mentioned in the other thread either and even Jerry's book doesn't mention this point other than saying AD wheels are early production, but no time frame given, not even a rough estimate :shrug:

[69Z28-RS]

I seem to remember a discussion that mi- December is the time of the last ADs, or when the switch happened.  I think this is the link I recall:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7767.msg54018#msg54018

I had a 'Y 1 8 10 24 AD' wheel which was one of the delivered wheels on a friend's '69 Z28 that he bought off the lot in Dec '68 (I don't have the VIN of his car so I don't know when it was built).  I've also seen references to YH wheels with a date of 17 Dec...  Maybe someone else has more or better information.

[X33RS]

Thanks, December narrows it down for me.  These December cars are a pain, right when alot of changes happened it appears.
    Probably safe to assume a 4th week of Dec Norwood car would have YH's on it.   Oddly I just did a search and the only thread that pops up on AD wheels is the one we are talking in, lol,  but I'm not computer savy either.