Got it everyone thanx so far...So I hate to sound stupid AGAIN... But should I make it 1/4" .25 on the end of that measurement, instead of the .28 ?... Reason being there is SOME paint around the balancer. So it could add up to 3 or 4 thousandths, or 1/16 of an inch. Does that 8 inches we have always heard about get measured with the balancer bare, no paint?... . Danny