My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow

[dannystarr]

Had a Holley expert come by today. He had me mount up my original carb and said it does have some issues, and a mind of it's own. He also mentioned that it has holes drilled in the butterflies. One little hole in each about an 1/8th". I think only in the secondary's. Is this stock? He tried to adjust it and it was going all squirrely. He took it with him back to Napa, CA. So now I have my original 15 miles away, and my aftermarket one in Florida being checked over by Specialty Parts Direct Carb issue checker guy. Maybe one will come back and I can drive the car in the next 10 days. Don't wanna get TOO happy yet...  ... D

[janobyte]

no not stock, this was actually a tuning tip per Holley to help smooth the idle with longer duration cams vs. opening the throttle plates more having to idle at  say 1200.

[dannystarr]

So do we leave it like that for the 302? Is it a good thing to have done?... D

[JohnZ]

So do we leave it like that for the 302? Is it a good thing to have done?... D

No, it's not - it's a Band-Aid, only necessary for use with really radical aftermarket cams; no need for it on a stock Z/28.

[dannystarr]

Ok, so the guy that is working on the carb said he has about 250 carbs. And a few of them are 4150's. So I will have him rob parts and see if he can make it right. Maybe just change out the whole base plate for now. Thanx to you all once AGAIN! All American Carb wants $250 WITHOUT any finish work. So they are next I guess. ... D

[ss jim]

Danny,
I may have some extra butterflies if you can"t find any. I can look tomorrow and see. Let me know. Jim

[TODD]

Danny;
 No! Don't change out the base, original bases are non-existent!
If you want to have some new plates fine but that base is rarer than hens teeth!

Todd

[dannystarr]

 Jim,
  Thanx, I will call the guy tom. and see what he says. I think we would just change some things to get me going. I would never dump the base. Remember, the goal is to just be able to drive it. I will get things all figured out over the winter. I want to show it as a survivor next year. But got a long way to go, and many parts to rebuild. Danny

[maroman]

Have him solder the 1/8 holes shut.

[janobyte]

Have him solder the 1/8 holes shut.

thought about that today, you beat me. have him check the base plate for warping ,also the metering blocks. Think I mentioned this.

[dannystarr]

I have some good news. My original carb is going thru the rebuild motions and getting close. Bob the Holley guy said he had extra butterflies. So he cleaned them up and installed them. Got the ones with the holes out of there. He also bushed the throttle shaft and installed the Holley #125-500 Kit. Which is the power valve saver. Comes with 2 springs, two balls, and two keepers. Also the bit and stop for the bit. He said he will check for warpage etc. He is going to test it on his neighbors '68 Camaro. So hoping to get it back soon, I am thinking by the weekend, or on it.
 
The after market 4150 I had bought, I sent it down to Florida. That is the testing place carbs with issues go. At least from Specialty Parts Direct. Here is his latest email.

   Hello Dan,
The carb has been corrected and is ready to ship back. Can you send me your UPS address?
Craig did experience the problem and ended up finding the holes in the front metering block that supply fuel for the idle were too large and causing the carb to run too rich. They were like a jet so he replaced them with the correct size and made all the other adjustments. He then ran the carb for a while again and said all is good.
Thanks,
Mark

 So that should be here Friday or Sat. So after weeks and weeks with no good carb.... I will have both back probably with-in a day of each other. Go figure... Maybe I will be able to take a spin this weekend... Danny

[BULLITT65]

Well slog with the Giants taking a 3-2 lead in the series, it sounds like good times ahead!

[dannystarr]

Well that means to work hard over a period of time. And the "Giants" and I have been doing that.. I had a chance to go, but when I found out the place where I usually park, went from $35 to $150... I said forget it. That buys a lot of Carb parts LOL  .. D

[BULLITT65]

"slog", I think I meant to say "well said".  Thats a killer on parking, what about the train??? Thats what me and my wife would take to games. Only like $7 round trip from San Carlos. Man I would be there if I had a deal on the tickets!!! one more go Peavy, another world series championship on the road, GO GIANTS!!

[dannystarr]

I don't think there is a train across the Golden Gate. Not that I know of anyway    ... My buddy had a ticket in the nose bleed seats for $500. Never been to a World series game before. Some day maybe. Just not a big enough fan to pay gas down and back, bridge, parking, food, drink, ticket. Probably have to buy everyone food, and I eat WAY to much at games. I would say about $800 to $1000. Too rich for my blood... D