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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2014, 02:10:25 PM »
Some cars will likely require entire body replacement to repair.  Mechanical Assembly restores the vehicles in the GM Heritage Collection and GM’s historic concept cars, so they know how to resurrect the dead so to speak.

I know it's an old debate, but at what point is it not the same car and can you still call it the 1 millionth for instance? Where is the "heart" of the car. The drive train? Maybe. A completely rebodied car to me can be a nice car, but it isn't the same car as before. It's a new one.
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Good question.. likely moot since GM built both. ???

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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2014, 04:10:14 PM »
Here's yesterday afternoon's press conference from the Museum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84BJC6r37o
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2014, 05:02:45 PM »
Very good!   Makes me feel a bit better.. and I just hope everything goes according to plan.

Thanks for posting that link JohnZ.. :)
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2014, 11:59:37 PM »
Progress!  They got two of the cars out of the sinkhole. News tonight showed first one starting.
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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2014, 12:17:55 AM »
Phil, saw that on the news. I wonder why they didn't take the '62 out first, appeared to be easiest.
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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2014, 12:25:45 AM »
I was thinking if they moved the blue car they could move the 62 so it was level and then take it out.
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2014, 03:16:24 AM »
Phil, saw that on the news. I wonder why they didn't take the '62 out first, appeared to be easiest.
I was thinking if they moved the blue car they could move the 62 so it was level and then take it out.

Makes sense to me. No telling what they are facing down in the hole.
Couldn't tell much from the video and the news pictures, but the Blue Devil didn't look too bad.  Hope they have good luck with the rest!

Video of the second one... It has more damage showing. Pretty sad...  but restoreable!

Local News Report... Shows the start up and drive out of the Blue Devil (hope not too far, note the leak as it drives out), second car has more damage, and says they'll try the 62 tomorrow.
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2014, 02:02:59 PM »
Phil, saw that on the news. I wonder why they didn't take the '62 out first, appeared to be easiest.

Because the black '62 has a 5-ton slab of concrete leaning on it - they have to deal with the car AND the slab, without damaging the car any further. It will come out today (Tuesday).
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2014, 02:07:32 PM »
John ,
I noticed in the videos that they are pulling the cars out by strapping to the wheels.  Is that a strong point structurally?
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2014, 05:03:44 PM »
The wheels better be able to hold the weight of the car!
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« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2014, 05:15:38 PM »
The wheels better be able to hold the weight of the car!

Exactly!  :o
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2014, 11:00:26 PM »
Did anyone else notice how little rebar there is in the concrete? BIG slabs fell in with no rebar in sight, as if nothing was tied together.
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2014, 11:44:35 PM »
I did notice that. After having tied rebar together for years it seamed strange I couldn't make out any in the pic. It seems as the years have gone by they have required the rebar to closer and tighter together and more of it. Also on some of the larger jobs I was involved in, (one of which was about the same size as the museum they required a separate Storm sewer based on the square footage of the building and water run off. You could have parked 3 cars in the storm sewer, it was huge. This was built about 1996 in washington state. I am not sure what year the museum was built, but I assume it was up to local code.
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Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2014, 11:54:46 PM »
Did anyone else notice how little rebar there is in the concrete? BIG slabs fell in with no rebar in sight, as if nothing was tied together.

I know that fiberglass is used in slabs in lieu of re-bar to give the concrete strength, which may be the case with this slab...after all fiberglass is a Corvette thing,right?
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