Original dealer info for 1st gens is available

[rsinor]

Thank you for the comment on this issue .  Anyone else here, feel free to comment also.  Would also like Roy Sinor's views on this.

John explained better than I could

[rsinor]

Hello everyone!!!!   Just received my dealer info and zone office number.   Also included was the build date of my 1969 Camaro RS/SS.  My cowl tag shows car was built "02D".
Per the letter from NCRS, car was built 3-10-69.   Would this "gap" in time be the time it took for someone back in the day to enter this info once the car was actually built???
Roy, please feel free to pipe in on this info if you can.  Thanks for all you have done here for everyone.    Don

The date will coincide with the month on your P.O.P

Not sure I agree with that what if your car sat on a lot unsold for several weeks even months? The P.O.P is filled out when the car sold, isn't it?

[69Z28-RS]

Of course Roy is correct; the imprinted 'tape' date, along with the new owners name and address are put on the POP when car is purchased.

[z28z11]

Has anyone been able to compare the official production date to the MSO date yet?

Thanks for asking this again - surely somebody has the MSO on their car and the dealer/build info by now. Am I going to have to send another $50.00 in to answer this ?

Regards

[janobyte]

B-29     Vehicle Build Month

One-character code from the following table.            Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul
      1967  V   L   R   K   Z   S   P   W   N   Y   T   X
      1968  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
      1969  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
 late 1969  8   9   O   N

These codes were impregnated by the dealer ?

[x66 714]

 

Has anyone been able to compare the official production date to the MSO date yet?

Thanks for asking this again - surely somebody has the MSO on their car and the dealer/build info by now. Am I going to have to send another $50.00 in to answer this ?

Regards

My order numbers are 916 & 917. As soon as I receive mine I can post the details...Joe

[Kelley W King]

As far as cowl tag verses NCRS build date date my cowl says 08E and the letter says 8-28-1969 which I think is Thursday of the E week.

[-vellu]

As far as cowl tag verses NCRS build date date my cowl says 08E and the letter says 8-28-1969 which I think is Thursday of the E week.

My cowl says 08C and NCRS letter says 8/20/1969 (Wednesday)

http://www.searchforancestors.com/utility/dayofweek.html

[Mark]

Remember the NCRS date is the day the car left the back door of the plant and is obviously calendar based, the cowl tag is the week the car was scheduled to be built and may not exactly follow the calendar weeks.  Also it took about 4 days to go from a firewall to a car rolling out the back door.  So if the car left the plant on a Wednesday, it was probably a firewall on the Friday of the week before.

[JohnZ]

B-29     Vehicle Build Month

One-character code from the following table.            Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul
      1967  V   L   R   K   Z   S   P   W   N   Y   T   X
      1968  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
      1969  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
 late 1969  8   9   O   N

These codes were impregnated by the dealer ?

Nope. Everything that was die-imprinted on the P-O-P was done at the plant, when the plate was created in the Addressograph machine on the Final Line. All the dealer added was the GM-branded Dymo tape with the purchaser's name and address.

[cook_dw]

Nope. Everything that was die-imprinted on the P-O-P was done at the plant, when the plate was created in the Addressograph machine on the Final Line.

Do you happen to know if this was the same for all vehicles and plants?  Because this brings up an interesting topic non Camaro related.

[69Z28-RS]

B-29     Vehicle Build Month

One-character code from the following table.            Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul
      1967  V   L   R   K   Z   S   P   W   N   Y   T   X
      1968  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
      1969  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
 late 1969  8   9   O   N

These codes were impregnated by the dealer ?

Nope. Everything that was die-imprinted on the P-O-P was done at the plant, when the plate was created in the Addressograph machine on the Final Line. All the dealer added was the GM-branded Dymo tape with the purchaser's name and address.

JohnZ...  I believe the 'date of sale' was also included by the Dealer on the DYMO tape with the purchaser, as that sale date specified the initiation of the warranty period.   If I'm wrong please correct me...  I'm going from memory of one I have from 1969.

[Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28]

I just got my report today on my 68 SSRS 396, Thank you again Roy.  Anyway my tag shows 05D and the report shows a production date of 5/24/1968. The really good news is the dealer code was 972 in zone 10 which is Hajek Chevrolet in Longmont, CO and they are still in business. I have owned this car since the beginning of 1980 and the only real past I knew of is the the pervious owner told me he bought the car in the Pueblo, CO area in 1978. Over the years I have ran craigs list adds in Pueblo asking for info on previous owners but never turned up anything and the last time I ran the add it got flagged and removed with in 12 hours.  I never had any idea where the car was really from and this is the best info yet and at least gives me some hope.

 Now my question is.. I want to call the dealer and try and ask for some possible info from way back when it was sold, who would you ask to speak to if you were doing this? I tried this on my 69 Z back in about 2000 at the dealer in OK that sold it but never really got anywhere as I dont think they really wanted to bother with me. Any advice who I should try to speak to and questions I should ask?

Thank you in advance,
 Nick

[cook_dw]

Now my question is.. I want to call the dealer and try and ask for some possible info from way back when it was sold, who would you ask to speak to if you were doing this? I tried this on my 69 Z back in about 2000 at the dealer in OK that sold it but never really got anywhere as I dont think they really wanted to bother with me. Any advice who I should try to speak to and questions I should ask?

Thank you in advance,
 Nick

I am going through the same thing.  Ive called and talked with the Manager of Sales & Manager of Finance and they are supposed to be looking into it.  Its been a couple weeks now and I havent heard anything.  I will probably wait another week or so and make another friendly reminder call and see if anything has come up.  

[janobyte]

B-29     Vehicle Build Month

One-character code from the following table.            Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul
      1967  V   L   R   K   Z   S   P   W   N   Y   T   X
      1968  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
      1969  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
 late 1969  8   9   O   N

These codes were impregnated by the dealer ?

Nope. Everything that was die-imprinted on the P-O-P was done at the plant, when the plate was created in the Addressograph machine on the Final Line. All the dealer added was the GM-branded Dymo tape with the purchaser's name and address.

JohnZ...  I believe the 'date of sale' was also included by the Dealer on the DYMO tape with the purchaser, as that sale date specified the initiation of the warranty period.   If I'm wrong please correct me...  I'm going from memory of one I have from 1969.

Here's how mine goes down: 04D body assembly began
                                          P.O.P  B-29  build month: "5" May
                                          Report came back reading May 1
                                          No dates on 3 tape strips Buyer's name , mailing address
                                          In booklet under tag : Delivery day: 6-25-68  in ink
Thanks John, after reading (and decoding) thought I was correct on the dates, and which ones should match...you verified. The above is just mine, and a 68, curious if others vary ?