Original Hurst Shifter or Not

[69Z28-RS]

I do not agree that we are 'back to square one'.  I believe we've confirmed that Mr Serio is correct (NO DATE CODE, per se), BUT.. we've also learned empirically that the ID code/SN has a month/year encoded into the SN...  which serves the same purpose for us.
A 'date code' is a marking put on a part purely to record the actual date (time/shift/etc) without any other purpose.    The Hurst ID/Serial number code has multiple pieces of information in it, some of which we do not know, but we've pretty conclusively shown that there is a month and year encoded as part of this SN.   But I doubt they did it just so we could demonstrate originality to a car 44 years later.. 

[DT]

I do not agree that we are 'back to square one'.  I believe we've confirmed that Mr Serio is correct (NO DATE CODE, per se), BUT.. we've also learned empirically that the ID code/SN has a month/year encoded into the SN...  which serves the same purpose for us.
A 'date code' is a marking put on a part purely to record the actual date (time/shift/etc) without any other purpose.    The Hurst ID/Serial number code has multiple pieces of information in it, some of which we do not know, but we've pretty conclusively shown that there is a month and year encoded as part of this SN.   But I doubt they did it just so we could demonstrate originality to a car 44 years later.. 

You do make a valid point.

[jdv69z]

Here's my 10B Oct 68 Shifter. Only 3 characters?

[JoeC]

yes they are date coded , I have a page full of dates I collected over many years of buying Camaro shifters

the 68 69 Firebird used the same shifter but a different date code
Camaro used 6 or 7 characters
Pontaic 4 or 5  characters  on GTO and Firebird Hurst shifters

there were also replacement shifter and those codes don't fall in with the assembly line shifters

common 69 camaro examples are 29D21C  feb 1969, 108D41C Oct 1968

68 69 Firbird example 88D4 Aug 1968 , 98B5 Sep 1968

[HawkX66]

Another one to add to the mix for you... Jan 69. Not original to my car though. Recognize it Gary? lol

[69Z28-RS]

Another one to add to the mix for you... Jan 69. Not original to my car though. Recognize it Gary? lol

  Is that the one I traded you a year or so ago?   I bought that unit in Atlanta at a Classic Chevy Meet in the late '70's or early '80's.. and I didn't know the code to determine date at the time I traded it to you..   that's been a later point of knowledge for me (learned here on CRG a few months ago..

Did you ever find someone to trade you the BB rods for the SB rods that were with it?

[HawkX66]

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Another one to add to the mix for you... Jan 69. Not original to my car though. Recognize it Gary? lol

  Is that the one I traded you a year or so ago?   I bought that unit in Atlanta at a Classic Chevy Meet in the late '70's or early '80's.. and I didn't know the code to determine date at the time I traded it to you..   that's been a later point of knowledge for me (learned here on CRG a few months ago..

Did you ever find someone to trade you the BB rods for the SB rods that were with it?

That's the one Gary. I haven't tried trading or selling the rods yet. I just put them away for a later date when I come across someone that might be interested in them.

[COPOZ/28]

This older thread seems to have the most in-depth discussion on the topic of Hurst shifter date/serial no. code stampings.  I'll add my recently discovered info to the mix: My 05E '69Z car has its "born with" shifter and M22.  I'm the 2nd owner (since '79) and close to the 1st owner.  The code stamped on the shifter housing is: 19D51Q.  Has the CRG community determined that the first 2 (or 3) characters define the month/year of the shifter's production?  If this is the case, then my shifter was produced in January of '69.  This would be a good 4 months prior to the 5th week in May the car started build.  What's the latest thinking on Hurst shifter date/serial/TBD codes?  Thanks.

[69Z28-RS]

I think that (month / yr ) is the best information we've been able to empirically determine.  I don't know if anyone has put a table together with all the ones reported here, but you should be able to read thru the thread and determine if 4 month out is 'too far out of the ordinary'...   my opinion is that it is likely near the farthest ones out, but not 'too far'...

[hihorse]

I have a shifter pulled from an 03D Los Angeles car on my desk right now, and it is stamped '29D29C'

Please verify that 2nd  last digit is '9' or post pic of stamp. Thanks

[Gonzo1717]

I just restored my shifter on my 12B Z/28. Numbers on my shifter are 118B13H. I think it would be safe to say that the first three numbers are a date code (11-8).