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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2013, 03:04:16 PM »
OK, so I need a brass tube #22008, the little brass part that has the splits in it and a cap to connect to the oil pressure gauge side and a double compression fitting #16001 to connect to the block fitting. Is this correct?
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2013, 05:39:59 PM »
John...is there a source for this line complete? Paragon?

Rick's has the complete kit.
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2013, 05:41:17 PM »
John,

Do you have a metal line or the original plastic type on your car?

I have the original nylon line on my car.
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2013, 09:50:53 PM »
Gary the plastic line is avaialable at Ricks  pn# CG-15 but you will still need the fitting and tube to install with this block fitting from what it appears to me. I dont believe the ends on this line kit are correct for the OE block fitting. you would need to cut one end off and add the two earlier listed parts - coorect me if I'm wrong
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2013, 10:36:02 PM »
OK, I had to order a grommet too so I ordered a new line kit #CG-15 from Ricks anyway that Rich mentioned. I believe I have a Ricks line already installed, and not seeing something laid out, for me to understand what I needed if I didn't have it all, this was a better solution. With all this done, do I still need one each of #22008 and #16001 when I cut off the end that goes into the OEM fitting on the block? I'm going to assume the old double crush sleeve is no good to use right? That is what I'm thinking I need. Is this correct? If it is, then I will be all set. If I have the Ricks kit already installed, then I'll have some spare parts if someone needs them. 
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2013, 02:32:55 AM »
Gary;
Here are my steps, using the original fitting on the block. I nipped one end off with the female fitting shown on post 25. The line kit I got from Paragon is crimped at both ends female fittings.
1) Jack the car and remove console, remove line and feed wire up through rubber isolator at firewall.
2) After you've got the old line removed from the car, feed the nipped end through your stock firewall rubber isolator. I used the wire (.032") to feed the line back up from the console. .
3) Removed male block fitting and installed original female block fitting.
4) Placed new double compression fitting on hose first and slide up out of the way, install new sleeve in line and pull fitting back down. My fitting and sleeve were loose (take care at this step as you can lose them)
5) Place new line end with assembled compression fitting/sleeve in block fitting and push line in while spinning fitting to pre-load the fitting on the line.
6) Torque line to 20 in/lb (that's the torque I used per some manuals I utilized)
7) Install and torque console fitting
8) Start car and admire your leak free install :)
7) Re-install the console and removed components
4) Drink a cold one and pat yourself on the back.  ;D
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2013, 02:41:46 AM »
Gary:
 You asked:
With all this done, do I still need one each of #22008 and #16001 when I cut off the end that goes into the OEM fitting on the block?
Yes, you need a new dbl. compression fitting and a sleeve those are the two I ordered.
I'm going to assume the old double crush sleeve is no good to use right?
Yes, after its crimped you can't get the line out and re-crimp it without fear of a crack/leak. Just replace it.

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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2013, 09:38:25 PM »
Hey guys. When I get everything in I'll post some pics with it all laid out just to make sure I'm not missing anything. This way if anyone needs to copy a good pic for reference it will be here in this thread.
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2013, 03:01:38 PM »
Gary;
Don't want to lead you astray here, just remembered some additional info. The Post 25 fitting 16001 is a larger nut style 3/8" and not the same as original. The only place I could find the original 5/16" nut style shown on post 26 was from: Part number 0650  111200 B.E. Atlas (773) 283-2550 in a pack of 5. Didn't want you to be disappointed when you get the new one, cause it looks different, it will work fine its just not the same as the original.

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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2013, 06:34:47 PM »
Gary;
Don't want to lead you astray here, just remembered some additional info. The Post 25 fitting 16001 is a larger nut style 3/8" and not the same as original. The only place I could find the original 5/16" nut style shown on post 26 was from: Part number 0650  111200 B.E. Atlas (773) 283-2550 in a pack of 5. Didn't want you to be disappointed when you get the new one, cause it looks different, it will work fine its just not the same as the original.

Todd



What's the name of the place? 111200 B.E. Atlas? By phone only?


Never mind...I Googled the phone number. Heck, you have to register and I don't fill all the requirements. Damn...

Unless I am in a different website there is no such number. I went into preview and entered 0650 111200 and just 0650 and there is no such number. What catagory is it under?
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2013, 07:47:09 PM »
Found this...don't know if you can buy from them though.

http://www.plews-edelmann.com/double-compression-fittings/
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2013, 07:59:21 PM »
I know this is not for a "69"  Z-28 but I think it came off  a "69" L-78 console car, can anyone confirm this? Terry
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2013, 01:13:21 AM »
Gary;
Edelmann shown here probably has more than one source. That's the numbers on my sales receipt.
They are who Edelmann sent me to buy. See pictures
sleeves

all three edelmann looks same as original

larger nut style

 

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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2013, 03:41:24 AM »
Todd...so how did you purchase them and from who?...this is what I'm trying to find out. Unless I'm missing something the Plews & Edelmann website doesn't have a way to purchase anything and your packages give NO clue where YOU got them. I've been looking off and on all afternoon for a source with no luck. I still have to purchase #22008 and #111200 yet and would rather not purchase #16001 if I really don't have to. I almost went with fastfittings.com until I say your side note about the larger 3/8" nut style of #16001.
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Re: 1969 Oil Pressure Gauge Block Sender Fitting
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2013, 04:27:16 AM »
I found #111200 at O'Reilly on-line if anyone is looking for them. Edelmann part# 111200. I just Googled that number and it took me right to the O'Reilly page. $1.99 ea. and ordered 2 but shipping is hefty...just under $14.00 UPS.


http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/EDE0/111200/N1163.oap?ck=Search_N1163_-1_-1&pt=N1163&ppt=C0248
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