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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2013, 08:02:04 PM »
I had a 65 impala SS back in 71 and got the recall. They would not install it because I had headers. My brothers unmolested 68 camaro still has it on it.
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 05:49:12 PM »
Was just reading this and wanted to ask if it was unusual to have one on both driver and passenger side? I just picked up a 46000 mile 69 Impala and there is one on each side.
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 06:01:49 PM »
Something else I was thinking about, even though the recall cables are there doesn't mean the motor mounts are bad or even separated are they? Looking at the mounts on the car I can't really tell. What's a good mount and a separated mount look like? Anybody have pics to share?
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 06:07:31 PM »
Only one was required and installed on the drivers side at the dealership. Since the engine rotates clockwise (as seen from the front of the car (or counter-clockwise as seen from the drivers seat), the torque would make it "lift" on the driver side. The cable kept it from doing this by tightening up if the engine mount failed. One on the passenger side wouldn't do anything but slack the cable!

It's very difficult to visually tell a bad mount while it's installed on the car other than watching the engine when you "give'r the gas"! If it's bad, the engine will want to "lift" on the driver side. No, the recall doesn't mean you have a bad mount.

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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2013, 10:29:16 PM »
So, Ed, why did many come with one on each side? My Impala isn't the only one i've seen this way. With the engine only lifting on the driver side it doesn't make any sense for there to be one on the passenger side, but yet, there it is. In my search for LM1 engines in the 69 Impala, I have see quite a few.
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2013, 10:53:10 PM »
No idea. The dealer was obligated to install one (and only one) on the driver side. HERE are the instructions for the kit (see reply number 9 from John). These instructions are for the Camaro and Nova, but the full size instructions are similar.

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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 03:34:57 PM »
Only one was required and installed on the drivers side at the dealership. Since the engine rotates clockwise (as seen from the front of the car (or counter-clockwise as seen from the drivers seat), the torque would make it "lift" on the driver side. The cable kept it from doing this by tightening up if the engine mount failed. One on the passenger side wouldn't do anything but slack the cable!


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Ed isn't this backward? I'm not being a know-it-all nor a smarty pants, and I may be wrong but I think they rotate clockwise sitting in the drivers seat.
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2013, 04:58:51 PM »
Yes, Ed got turned around in his drivers seat, as this part of his post is incorrect..   :)
"Since the engine rotates clockwise (as seen from the front of the car (or counter-clockwise as seen from the drivers seat), "..   
but the remainder of his post, and the gist of his response, was correct..  :)
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2013, 05:37:51 PM »
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...I think they rotate clockwise sitting in the drivers seat.

What I meant is that on the Chevrolet V8 engine, the crankshaft, pulleys and fan all rotate clockwise if you're looking at the engine standing in front of the car (counter-clockwise if you're sitting in the car looking forward).

This rotation is what makes the engine want to "lift" on the drivers side.

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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2013, 04:15:11 PM »
Yes, Ed got turned around in his drivers seat, as this part of his post is incorrect..   :)
"Since the engine rotates clockwise (as seen from the front of the car (or counter-clockwise as seen from the drivers seat), "..   
but the remainder of his post, and the gist of his response, was correct..  :)


Ed's post (reply #18) is 100% correct. :-)
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Re: 67 Camaro Engine Identification
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2013, 05:06:03 PM »
Yes, John, kinda sorta..  *L*...

'The 'rotating assembly' rotates in one direction, but the TORQUE on the engine itself is actually applied in the opposite direction when there is a load; that's why the engine TRIES to rotate in the clockwise direction (as viewed from the drivers seat)...    it's all in the terminology.. :)

and Ed's further explanation clarified that.

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