Author Topic: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles  (Read 237533 times)

Steve Shauger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 633
    • View Profile
    • Vintage Certification
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2013, 12:35:25 AM »
Gary my car is a 9A and is coded C  BU date is 82X I believe either a 6 or 8. I think the exhaust system had rubbed against the tube and now the last digit is hard to identify.
Steve Shauger
Vintage Certification™ Program, Providing Recognition And Status To Unrestored Vehicles.  The Supercar Registry-www.yenko.net-

mickeystoys69RSSS

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 260
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2013, 03:47:36 PM »
No help in answering your question because my 69 is an early build 11C '68.

K 88 dated 860 casting with BI1115G1 assembly.

restore-z28

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 288
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2013, 04:29:50 PM »
Do you have a photo of a CBU stamp?  I don't think I've ever seen one, so maybe it's not like I was expecting..?
or maybe Bryon can post a pix of his as he has a C BU code??

Here you go Gary....


Sonny
1969 Z28 Camaro, sold :-(
1970 Z28 Camaro
www.camaros.ca

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5781
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2013, 07:50:47 PM »
Thanks for the photo Sonny.  It's interesting to see how much separation there is in the 'C' and the 'BU'.   Does anyone have any idea why the separation?  stamped separately?  or ??  if so, maybe the 'C' is carrying some other piece of information we aren't aware of?
and seeing the separation, perhaps Kurt was correct, and there 'was' a 'C' before my BU code, but if so, it was apparetly hit by a highway rock, or debris, and became obscured to the point it is no longer clear.
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

KurtS

  • CRG Coordinator
  • *****
  • Posts: 5959
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2013, 04:36:22 PM »
I think the axle stamp didn't have a place for the extra C character. Not sure how they handled it, but the letters are spaced like that.
Kurt S
CRG

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4101
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2013, 03:00:30 AM »
I agree with Kurt, I think it is C BU.

I am starting to think more that the 3 letter code started when the casting number changed to 3969341.  But more data points are needed.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5781
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2013, 02:11:23 PM »
I went back to the CRG data on differentials, and it says the 3 letter code began wtih the '70 model year, and the 'C' represented 'cars' (I supposed as opposed to truck differentials?)..  Given that, it makes sense that at the time they would have normally began building the new model year (late July or August or so?), they would have began using the new parts; as they did for a number of different items on our late '69 cars; several items are labeled as, or carry characteristics of the '70 model year, rather than the '69 model year.
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4101
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2013, 07:15:32 PM »
The space between the C and the other two letters of the code is there for most (I am not quite sure I can say all) cases that I have seen for late 69 Model year and early 1970 model year Camaros.  It is not always there for Chevelles. 

Attached is a 1970 C OZ code that shows similar spacing.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4101
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2013, 05:20:28 PM »
The attached image is from an Impala.  Casting number is 3969341 with casting date I 5 9.  Just for additional reference.  It has the C before the FW.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4101
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2013, 07:06:28 PM »
Saw this one yesterday but did not get a picture.  Was in a 70 Camaro at one time so perches had been moved.  Was either in a 70 Nova or 69 Camaro originally from what I could tell.
Casting number  3894860
Casting date      F 24 9
Stamped code   C BM 0807G1

« Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 07:35:54 PM by bcmiller »
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 12:14:48 AM »
I wish I had better pics for you, but my rear end isn't there yet...

Casting Number 3969341
Casting Date H 11 9
Stamped Code C BS 0820G2





Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4101
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2014, 02:57:26 AM »
Thanks for posting the pics!
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4480
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2014, 07:59:13 AM »
sorry just noticed this thread
Here is a pic of mine from a 08C ( August of 69) car.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2014, 04:57:15 PM »
sorry just noticed this thread
Here is a pic of mine from a 08C ( August of 69) car.
That's interesting. Five days between your rear end and mine and yours isn't a "C" rear end. Gary's is 9 days after mine and it isn't a "C" rear end either.
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5781
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2014, 05:14:09 PM »
Nope..   Gary's IS a C rear end..  although the C is partially obscured by an 'impact' wtih a rock or something in the past..?
(Bryan and Kurt finally convinced me there was a 'C' out there in front of the BU..)

see image here..     http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10375.0;attach=10540;image
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan