69 Headlight Bezels

[usa1ti]

What was the original factory finish on the 69 Headlight bezel screws? Zinc, Black or stainless? I'm missing a couple and all of my others are rusty. Finally got my black grill painted Argent Silver! looks much better. Thanks.

[x66 714]

Phosphate, same as the screws in the top of the grill....Joe

[KevinW]

Phosphate? My memory might be going, but I remember chrome phillips screws for all those applications.

[x66 714]

The Legends manual says the h/l bezel screws are chrome. At the time I was doing my car, I had a 12k survivor ss396 at my house & it had black screws.  Maybe silver bezels used chrome screws & black bezels used black screws.  Upper grill is for sure black screws (phosphate)....Joe

[x66 714]

Part number was 3943203. The Feb 1969 Chevrolet parts manual says it's 8-18 x 5/8 with washer....Joe

[camaronut]

The Legends manual says the h/l bezel screws are chrome. At the time I was doing my car, I had a 12k survivor ss396 at my house & it had black screws.  Maybe silver bezels used chrome screws & black bezels used black screws.  Upper grill is for sure black screws (phosphate)....Joe

There's a few items in that book I would question.  I've seen totally original 69 Camaros that counter what that manual says is absolute.  Being that said, it's a great reference for folks going through Legends Judging.

[x66 714]

Quote: It's a great reference for folks going through Legends Judging.

I agree...Joe

[usa1ti]

Thanks for everyones help. Looks like I will go with chrome screws for the Bezels and phosphate for the upper grill.

[KevinW]

Well, this thread is very informative, but I think we need to go deeper. Pic attached.

For headlight bezels: chrome 8-18 x 5/8" with "washer".  But medium washer or small washer??

For grill stiffener: black phosphate 8-18 x "what length?"  1/2" or 5/8"? washer or no washer? (I assume 5/8" length)

Based on how many spare screws I have, I assume the 5/8" chrome screws with the medium washer are for the interior door panel or maybe a big washer. The big washer version of these screws I know were used for convertible rear interior panels.  Just not sure about interior door panels.

And would the screws for deluxe panels be different then standard door panels?   

Which would leave the small washer for the headlight bezels. (I will test the fit of both later today)
   
I also found versions of these screws in 1/2" length.  Where would these go?

Thanks for any insight!

[KevinW]

OK, I tried the headlight bezel screws.  There are indentations where the screw goes into the bezels. So the medium washers will not work.  I installed the 5/8" screws with the small washers and it worked fine.  Of course you cannot see the washers on the screws when installed

The grill stiffener screws are a bit more strange.  The 5/8" black ones I have have a smaller head than the chrome ones I used previously.  And the head of the w/washers are a bit too big.  More info would be helpful! 

 

[camaronut]

I suggest using the AIM - get the part number, then use AMK to get a picture of what it looks like.  That might help.

Get the screws on eBay - I bought a 100 of the grille stiffener screws for the same price as 10 from the parts vendors. 

Now - what do I do with the 90 extra screws?  LOL!

[KevinW]

Yes, AIM and AMK are what I look at 1st.

AMK does not list the 3943203 headlight screw in my PDF, the Heartbeat ones do not have the washer.

For the grill stiffener the number is 9421923 8-18 x 3/4" .27 D S3 is black phosphate, but that finish is not listed for sale.

Heartbeat shows 7 screws, but my stiffener uses 9 And I need another 9 for my other Camaro.

Send me a PM please

 

[camaronut]

PM sent  or better yet:

Grille stiffener screws.........https://www.ebay.com/itm/403195764725?hash=item5de0571ff5:g:UOIAAOSwOPxiHwjD

[KevinW]

Mike, thanks for the link!  I had to recheck the screws I have with some original and GM stiffeners.  Between the 2 screws sizes I have, I thought the larger head was correct, but after trying them, the smaller head is correct. I used larger head chrome screws in my repro stiffener and they seemed to fit, but the screws in the link (and what you bought) are correct.  My head hurts now.

[camaronut]

Oh I know that feeling!!!  Lol!!

Glad I can help.