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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2020, 05:04:40 AM »
Here is Dave Beem's Original paint Yenko - 01B X66. It's got a good bit of gloss...
The paint on Daves car is in incredible original shape... it was never cut hard if at all, I don't think there is any checking and has beautiful lacquer texture, you can see the grind marks in the lead seams around the trim and some circular sanding marks around the seams as well if you get it in just the right light... just incredible.

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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2020, 03:43:38 PM »
Would be pretty unusual to have orange peel that bad on the top of that car. Should have been sanded out or flowed out in the reflow oven. Maybe bad quality control that hour or ovens weren’t working right?

Color System: The bodies were sequenced to "batch-paint" by color as much as the build schedule allowed, to minimize the waste of thinner required to clear paint guns between colors. The interior was masked off, the body exterior was tacked-off, and it then entered the main color booth, where it got three coats of acrylic lacquer, sprayed automatically with vertical and horizontal reciprocating spray guns, with a 3-minute "flash" between coats, followed by a 10-minute bake at 200F to "skin" the surface prior to sanding. In the next stage, any surface defects were power- and hand-wet-sanded with mineral spirits, then wiped off prior to entering the final "reflow" oven. This bake lasted 30 minutes at 275F, where the lacquer surface softened and "re-flowed" to a uniform gloss.

People can believe what they want. I am done discussing. I know what I know based on what I have seen for 67 and 68. Can’t say with as much certainty for 69. Over and out.
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Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2020, 07:13:57 AM »
Call it whatever you like... here is the original uncut paint in extreme detail.







And here are the grind marks...



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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2020, 11:55:46 AM »
'We all know what we know.."  .. but some/most of us are still learning, regardless of our age or experience...  :)
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2020, 11:01:57 PM »
I will see if I can get someone that worked on the line at Van Nuys assembly to comment.
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2020, 03:37:40 PM »
I did these samples of black lacquer with flattening agent at the indicated percentage in it then taped off and half I HAND POLISHED with swirl remover.

20% flattener



30% Flattener





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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2020, 04:23:26 PM »
Thanks James.

It shows what happens with polishing. :)

btw...30%
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2020, 08:17:15 PM »
FWIW I add 20% flattener in the final 2 coats when shooting Corvettes for NCRS judging... if you don't most catalyzed paints look too plastic... no pun intended.
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2020, 03:17:55 PM »
I found this picture online awhile back and snapped a picture of it on my phone for reference. I will refer back to this pic when my tail panel is painted. Of course that will be a long way away. The picture said 1st SS396. I don’t remember what site it was. I will have to look again but I do remember this SS396 was shown with other Camaros.

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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2020, 04:33:24 PM »
no work.
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2020, 09:42:30 PM »
X66 your attachment is 0kb.. meaning the photo did not attach.

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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2020, 12:53:59 AM »
Still have trouble sometimes with pics. Let me try again.

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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2020, 05:20:47 PM »
That looks like the show car.
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Re: Blackout paint code for tail pan
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2020, 11:28:36 PM »
Yeah Kurt I just saw that today under the concept cars section of this site. I don’t know where on the internet I saw this Camaro listed as the 1st SS396.

 

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