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Re: some progress
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2020, 03:01:25 PM »
I didn't think resonators were part of the production until the last few months of the '69 production year??   
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Re: some progress
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2020, 04:12:27 PM »
Intro - late Nov '68: NC8 chambered exhaust standard equipment
Nov '68 - April '69: NC8 no longer standard; deep-tone single muffler, no resonators, NC8 optional
April '69 - May '69: standard N10 muffler/resonator system w/aluminized tailpipes
May '69 - end: chromed tailpipes, NC8 dropped as an option

This was Z/28 only. As of the November recall, all big blocks were supposed to have the standard N10 system. Vintage photos of ZL1 #3 [final-assembled on or about March 4] show the N10 system.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2020, 07:45:43 PM »
Thought the resonators entered mid to late 68.Noise issues. Chambered big block SS 68. Chambered option 69 Z's.

In any case, this was the take off  exhaust, by second owner in 69. Bought the car as a replacement for his Camaro, which was stolen at the track, Norwalk. Was in the stands and saw it being driven away. Still have the Hookers he hung on the car. Muffler still had a coat of undercoating goop, outer side, prior to clean up.

Fired it up day before yesterday, I was very surprised how loud it is. Pleasantly, low deep chop, out the rear. Little nervous, if  it sounded tame, it was coming off.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2020, 11:55:38 PM »
Well, you sparked my curiosity, and we're having a knock on wood slow day at the station. My down pipe #s show up in UPC NF2. UPC Z28, A2, exhaust refers to NF2, N61 w/o resonators. Scrolling through the pdf on my phone, soso reading specs, didnt find N61. Cars a late april build.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2020, 12:34:56 PM »
Intro - late Nov '68: NC8 chambered exhaust standard equipment
Nov '68 - April '69: NC8 no longer standard; deep-tone single muffler, no resonators, NC8 optional
April '69 - May '69: standard N10 muffler/resonator system w/aluminized tailpipes
May '69 - end: chromed tailpipes, NC8 dropped as an option

This was Z/28 only. As of the November recall, all big blocks were supposed to have the standard N10 system. Vintage photos of ZL1 #3 [final-assembled on or about March 4] show the N10 system.

I didn't know there was a November recall...
The recall letter I have a copy of is dated August 1969. (Attached)
IT states the following -
Cars built Prior to Dec 4th had Chambered exh.
Dec 4 - May 2nd without resonators.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2020, 12:43:36 PM »
Janobyte...
I didn't find N61 either...
I am wondering if it is a typo...
The one I had must have been an N10 resonator system.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2020, 01:20:29 PM »
Cali car? Date built? Don't know why this stuff is so interesting to me.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2020, 06:16:29 PM »
The recall letter is part of the documentation for a 69 Z28 built 3rd week of Dec, yes Cali built. TONS of paper, and is the first provable cowl hood car built. 

The exhaust I had came off a spring car, - after the introduction of new colors and my dad remembers him having the car prior to the summer of 68. The head pipes were cut just after the down tube, the car was owned by the local Mercury Marine dealer's son, one of my father's best friends. Ossey Delaney -  The car taken directly from the dealership in Greenville to Atlanta - Nalley - I think because they had a dyno and had side pipes, hurst shifter, scatter shield aluminum flywheel and shieffer clutch, bigger cam, and 4.88's and was dyno tuned. Dad said it was wicked on the streets around Greenville. He was given the exhaust when it was new, my dad had a 67 RS 327 275 which had crane cam head intake carb combo and he was going to put the exhaust on it, he had to go in the service, hated driving the camaro on the highway (6'1" 225lbs) and just never got around to it before trading on a loaded new 68 442 White over Blue with SS1's and redlines in the fall of 68 just after 69's introduction.

The exhaust hung in the basement of our house as a child then moved to storage at one of our buildings, when I bought my 68 RS/SS 396 in the late 80's my dad said - perfect place for that exhaust - I barely started restoring it before I got a 69 Stingray 350 350 4 spd, graduated high school, went off to college got a porsche turbo and in 93-94 I sold the 69 Corvette for $7500 and the Camaro as a project for I think $3500 the exhaust was stacked in the car with the rest of the boxes of parts.

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Re: some progress
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2020, 07:52:44 PM »
👍like the story. Sure alot were rafter hung out there and just pitched thinking it was rusty old junk.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2020, 08:53:47 PM »
The recall letter is part of the documentation for a 69 Z28 built 3rd week of Dec, yes Cali built. TONS of paper, and is the first provable cowl hood car built. 

The exhaust I had came off a spring car, - after the introduction of new colors and my dad remembers him having the car prior to the summer of 68. The head pipes were cut just after the down tube, the car was owned by the local Mercury Marine dealer's son, one of my father's best friends. Ossey Delaney -  The car taken directly from the dealership in Greenville to Atlanta - Nalley - I think because they had a dyno and had side pipes, hurst shifter, scatter shield aluminum flywheel and shieffer clutch, bigger cam, and 4.88's and was dyno tuned. Dad said it was wicked on the streets around Greenville. He was given the exhaust when it was new, my dad had a 67 RS 327 275 which had crane cam head intake carb combo and he was going to put the exhaust on it, he had to go in the service, hated driving the camaro on the highway (6'1" 225lbs) and just never got around to it before trading on a loaded new 68 442 White over Blue with SS1's and redlines in the fall of 68 just after 69's introduction.

The exhaust hung in the basement of our house as a child then moved to storage at one of our buildings, when I bought my 68 RS/SS 396 in the late 80's my dad said - perfect place for that exhaust - I barely started restoring it before I got a 69 Stingray 350 350 4 spd, graduated high school, went off to college got a porsche turbo and in 93-94 I sold the 69 Corvette for $7500 and the Camaro as a project for I think $3500 the exhaust was stacked in the car with the rest of the boxes of parts.

James...  Is there ANY possibility that your 'Ossie Delaney' ....  is really   'Ossie Delay'??   Did your Ossie ever do a bit of SCCA Racing in a '69 z28 (gray/black)?? 

ie.   https://www.racingsportscars.com/driver/results/Ossie-DeLay-USA.html

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Re: some progress
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2020, 03:35:25 PM »
I am 100% sure it was delaney not delay however I will double check with my dad.  I knew, met, and talked to Ossie many times prior to his premature death in the 1990's (severely overweight) as he and his wife lived no more than a few miles from our house and was right beside my high school - Ossie never mentioned trans am racing HOWEVER I didn't have much of an interest in T/A racing when I would see him in the late 70's through the 1980's - he rarely if ever mentioned the 68 Z.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2020, 01:37:52 AM »
Ossie Delay worked as a Fire Investigator for Cherokee Cty, GA and lived in the Alpharetta / Woodstock areas during the 70's thru 80's..   He and one of his good friends (whose name I'm not recalling right now) did some local racing in the area there, and Ossie became acquainted with my friend Bob Christiansen (who raced a '69 Z28 in SCCA/TransAm thru the early 70's and then a later model Camaro in IMSA-GT.   When Bob Christiansen went from SCCA to IMSA-FT and changed Camaros, Ossie and his friend in GA bought the '69 Z28 TA car and raced is locally some before selling the car to a Dentist/Doctor in the Chattanooga area.   They kept two sets of Magnesium wheels and an OTC disk brake rear which I bought from them in the early 80's...

I met Ossie a few times back in those days and the name you mentioned was so *close*, I had to ask..  :)
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Re: some progress
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2020, 03:28:18 PM »
I did ask my dad... he said definitely Delaney.
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Re: some progress
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2020, 07:02:50 PM »
thanks for asking, James.. :)     Ossie Delaney was so close to 'Ossie Delay' that I had to ask.. and they both lived in the north Atlanta area.. :)
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