The 69 three speed holes may have been stamped, but all four speeds were torched. They were still torching the four speed holes up to at least 1981 in the Camaros. If you have a stamped hole in yous it is most likely more of a square shape and a three speed hole. So I beg to differ as I have taken apart factory original Camaros with the torched holes. Don't really matter what anyone says, seeing is believing