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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Partial VIN on M20 has swapped digits

« on: January 23, 2016, 05:16:40 PM »

Thanks for the thoughts, and for reminding me of "1" being a plant option.

One other bit of information, the muncie ID tag reads 3950356 (pictured) which I understand means a 69 M20 for Chevelle or Camaro with 3.07 or 3.31 rear axle.

If this is true, then one might think the M20 could've been in a Chevelle assembled in Oshawa. However, from what I can tell those sequence numbers started at 300001, and with production numbers in Oshawa only reaching 34,765 (per http://chevellestuff.net/1969/plant_prod_no.htm), that wouldn't explain the "191651595" partial.

Is the pictured muncie ID tag limited to Chevelles and Camaros, or do I need to be looking at other cars assembled in Oshawa in 1969 that might have reached a "651595" sequence number?  Thanks   -Kurt H.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Axle Casting Date - Is this an 8 or 9?

« on: January 23, 2016, 06:07:25 AM »

Thanks for the quick reply and catching the typo. Axle assy date is actually 0527. Any chance this was already in your database Kurt? Thanks! - Kurt H.

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Decoding/Numbers / Partial VIN on M20 has swapped digits

« on: January 23, 2016, 05:56:17 AM »

My Second question on this 69 X55 car we are decoding (see first thread for the details http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=14175.0)

The VIN is 124379N655195, which matches the partial stamped in the rough cast area by the oil filter. See attached photo.

However, the partial VIN on the date correct M20 is 191651595 . See attached photo.

I've seen some discussion on swapped digits, or a 6 instead of a 9, but the fact that there are two mistakes causes concern.

First, the 1 instead of the N. As far as I understand the same gang holder was used to stamp the engine and trans at the same time. Any possible explanation for this discrepancy?

Second, the "651595" instead of "655195," could that be a swap between the 1 and the 5?

Thanks in advance for your expert opinions.  -Kurt H.

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Decoding/Numbers / Axle Casting Date - Is this an 8 or 9?

« on: January 23, 2016, 05:28:46 AM »

I've been learning from this great resource for a long time (thanks everyone), but this is my first time posting.

My Father and I are working on decoding a 69 X55 car he recently purchased (pictures of it cleaned up are still up on this classified aggregator from a previous sale, when he found it this week it was covered in cobwebs, dust, and cat prints: http://www.2040-cars.com/Chevrolet/Camaro/69-camaro-super-sport-350-4-speed-muncie-ss-x55-matching-numbers-survivor-229457/ ). We need your collective wisdom on the rear axle date.

First, the details (maybe it's already in the database, if not, let me know what else you need):

VIN - 124379N655195   NOR350464  TR - 712  PNT 57-57   06A  X55

Engine Assy Stamp missing, must have been machined off (but the partial VIN is still present in the rough cast area by the oil filter)

Trans Assy Code - P9E06A , Muncie ID tag - 3950356, Partial VIN 191651595 (that's not my typo, picture and question coming in second thread)

Axle Assy Stamp - BS 0527 G2   E    Axle Casting Date - E14 ?   What do you think, is it an 8 or a 9?

Attaching photos, all rotated to show the numbers right side up. Tried to get a different angle with different light to show the last digit. Also attaching the test cast for comparison of the 8 and 9.

I've seen discussion about the unlikelihood of an axle sitting around for a few months, so I think a year later is out of the question. But the otherwise correct dating seems too much of a coincidence, unless someone really went out of their way to find a rear axle that was almost exactly right.

Thanks in advance for the thoughts. - Kurt H.