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General Discussion / Re: EO Z/28 is back
« on: August 01, 2015, 09:14:57 PM »
something going on with that car....Clem was driving it across the block! Clem what happened???
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General Discussion / Re: EO Z/28 is back
« on: August 01, 2015, 08:30:32 PM »
Did not sell....bid goes on! Bid up to $160 and auction house said it would take $200
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General Discussion / Re: EO Z/28 is back
« on: July 18, 2015, 01:18:37 PM »If you have a couple hours to spare read the thread below & the $59k may not surprise you...
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776
If you have a couple hours to spare read the thread below & the $59k may not surprise you...FT Lang I did read the whole thing and that is why i reached the conclusion that I reached. Made no sense to me how after choosing the EO color and all the controversy surrounding the car and the level of restoration that he would let it go that cheap. My reserve would have been in the $100K range. I know Jerry and William saw the car and attested it was CS and the trim tag was probably stripe delete, but when we saw the door panel peeled back with the pink hues and Clem's story even I was convinced it was a super rare 1of 1. Maybe that does not mean super desirable but in my book it's more than $59K. Either way no reason to rehash hear. Let's see what it brings at Mecum when it gets talked up. What we know for sure is that it will not have Jerry's blessing as a 1 of 1. If it were my car I would have had him come out after the restoration started to see the pink hues under the door panels.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776
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General Discussion / Re: EO Z/28 is back
« on: July 18, 2015, 01:56:17 AM »
Clem..you need to get a cut of the auction action on this car. I don't believe the car sold for $59k. There was something terribly fishy about that sale and the seller's radio silence after a well publicized restoration. If the Carolina Blue didn't sell at Mecum auction after being bid up to over $400k as a rare 1/1 then how did EO go for $59k? Riddle me that Batman
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General Discussion / Re: Anyone know anything about this car
« on: July 11, 2015, 06:36:23 PM »
Austin - the only thing that kept me away was lack of storage and a wife that thought I was certifiable after having just bought my lemans blue.
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General Discussion / Re: Anyone know anything about this car
« on: July 11, 2015, 03:35:40 AM »
I have had extensive conversations with the seller. Car has great docs, protecto and an extensive list of options. No console gauges or tach. Cowl hood is not original to car. Rear deck does not have Camaro emblem and stripes on deck come down too far. Otherwise a very nice car that has a cd of the restoration although the seller is not sure when it occurred. Almost bought myself and posted stamps of the drivetrain under the decoding threads.
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General Discussion / Re: JM Certified Dusk Blue 1969 Z28
« on: July 02, 2015, 09:34:09 PM »
It is Beautiful!! Congrats!!
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Garage Talk / Re: What's I've been busy on.... :)
« on: July 01, 2015, 01:48:47 AM »
Great idea! Use it in good health!
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original stamp or not?
« on: June 24, 2015, 02:08:26 AM »
The cowl hood was added. It is not on the window sticker.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original stamp or not?
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:57:17 PM »There is NO direct relationship between VIN and body numbers.William I just realized what you meant by order confirmation. That would make sense and would account for why some cars body numbers are not in sync with most of the cars produced during the same time frame. This car does have a host of special options that may have held up its production. Thanks
The best examples are the Gibb ZL1 Camaros. All 50 were ordered on or about December 6, 1968. The orders were assigned confirmations #222001-222049; 1 order was messed up and later re-issued. The first Gibb ZL1 was N569358 / NOR222002 built December 30, 1968. N609238 / NOR222001 is the 14th ZL1, built March 5, 1969. Gibb needed the #1 car quickly and his contacts at Chevrolet moved it up the schedule.
The first ZL1 Camaro ordered [different dealer] was N608193 / NOR211785. Despite being ordered almost two weeks prior to Gibbs cars it was built much later. Why? The body number had nothing to do with production scheduling. Chevrolet scheduled production based on a number of factors: equipment availability, dealer location, paint color. How much clout the dealer had also came into play.
There is nothing unusual about cars built within minutes of each other having body numbers thousands apart.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original stamp or not?
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:22:36 PM »
Thank you William for your response. The reason I raised the issue is that in Jerry's book although there is no direct correlation between the two (pages 109 and 110 being the best example, VINs 215 numbers apart and body numbers only 1 digit apart), there appears to be a sequential correlation in that as VIN numbers increased body numbers did as well (see pages 100-119). I would imagine there are anomalies such as the one you have pointed out for special order cars (and a couple in his book), but based on the window stickers in his book (specifically pages 103 and 104), the body number (159270) for the car I am referencing in this thread has a VIN number (560077) that does not fall between the VINs on these two pages where the body numbers are on either side of the one in this sentence. My suspicion is that body numbers and VIN numbers increased but not directly. Do you see the correlation I am trying to make?
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original stamp or not?
« on: June 23, 2015, 06:24:22 PM »
Technical question related to this thread. What is the relationship between body number and VIN number? Based on MacNeish's book and the window stickers contained therein, the body number on the TT posted above for this car is way out of sequence with the VIN number. The window stickers in Jerry's book go in production order and a car with this VIN should have a body number in the 200000 plus range not 159270. Please let me know your thoughts.
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original stamp or not?
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:53:14 PM »
Thanks Kurt. Still considering this car and would like to hear from others regarding the authenticity and totality of the documentation posted on this thread and whether the driveline items look authentic as well. Thanks in advance
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General Discussion / Re: ugliest Camaro, or weirdest for sale ad? (this may make you cry)
« on: June 23, 2015, 01:55:34 AM »
It is both Austin...$69 about covers it!
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General Discussion / Re: My Z arrived today!
« on: June 14, 2015, 02:51:49 AM »I was just thinking I don't have much for a '69 that you would need, maybe a couple little things. I do have an extra original brake booster hose bracket with the AAC stamping. But I think another member said he might want it. I will have to go back and check some emails to see whom it was. Can you take a close-up shot of your brake booster hose bracket? I do have an original USA-1 front plate. If you are interested I can post some pictures. It is the correct heavy steel with the greenish/brown chromate back. Very little flawing. It's a pricey sucker..Danny
Danny - thanks but I have found everything that I needed. I have the USA-1 plate already on the car. I will take pic tomorrow and post. Thx