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General Discussion / Re: '69 Z28 newbie

« on: May 07, 2011, 09:49:55 PM »

The VIN is 124379N523203.

Here's the info cut-and-pasted from the eBay add. 

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69 Early Production (Oct 68) Real Deal Z28.  Blue with white racing stripes and houndstooth interior.  This car has been restored to a very high standard and you will not be disappointed.  I believe the mileage to be correct due to the overall condition and feel of the car, but I cannot document this.

Engine
302 DZ with stamp.  DZ stamp still visible although engine was decked at some point so stamping is faint. Engine has hydraulic Lunati Voo Doo Cam 262/268. Correct water pump, intake, Holley Carburetor, distributor, etc.  Engine is very strong and has a nice lope for cruising.  No leaks.
Engine Code is very faint due to being decked at some point.  The best I can tell it reads "V  22 DZ".  The first two digits are not legible.

Drive Train
Transmission Muncie M21 close ratio with correct numbers.  Hurst shifter with  12 bolt rear axle with 3:73 gear ratio.  All works as it should with no issues

Interior
Interior is very nice and clean with no issues.  Fuel gauge not working, all others ok.
Paint
Paint is done to a very high quality gloss.  It is obvious that it was wet sanded then buffed to a showroom finish.  There are two very minor paint issues.  One is a small scratch on driver fender, and one small chip on rear spoiler(both are too small to get in photo)

The trim tag reads 69  12437        NOR139974, 
Interior - 712(deluxe),      Paint   71(lemans blue)     B(black vinyl top)
Production  10C(3rd week october 68)

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General Discussion / Re: '69 Z28 newbie

« on: May 07, 2011, 02:29:37 AM »

Thanks everyone for your awesome feedback.  I may take you up on hiring Mr MacNeish to have a look at this car.

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General Discussion / '69 Z28 newbie

« on: May 06, 2011, 03:01:52 AM »

Bear with me everyone on this lengthy post but I'm new to the muscle car scene.

I've never owned a 1st Gen Camaro but I've been looking to buy one recently.  I've been researching 69 z28's and just inspected my first one.  If anyone has some advice on the following problems I found and associated price, I love to hear your inputs. I'd really like to know if $35,000 is a reasonable price for the following imperfections on this good looking/sounding Z28.

This Z28 appears to have the correct VIN, cowl tag and other features that make it a 69 z28.  It's Lemans Blue with white stripes, a DZ302 motor, in-dash Tach, 4 speed M21 trans, 12 bolt rear, with disc brakes up front and 4 leaf springs in the back.  It's an early 69 so no X-code.  Over the phone and in the online ad, the gentleman selling the vehicle said the only thing wrong with the car was an inoperative gas gauge.  Upon visual inspection we found the following issues...trunk pan had been replaced and spot welded in; rust in the bottom left and right corners of the trunk that had been painted over years ago; rear windows that were off their tracks and had to be helped up; minor oil leak from the rear of the engine/transmission; inoperative speedometer; broken leaf spring on left rear; rear bumper missing mounts on left and right side; rear spoiler not attached per original design; manufactured holes in the firewall not sealed after wires were run through; underneath the dash there appears to be a cracked weld or incorrectly installed piece of sheet metal as your looking up from underneath in the vicinity of the center dash; no idiot lights on the dash.
The engine sounds and runs strong and the paint job is very nice.  This man also has a beautifully restored '57 pickup that he did himself so I was surprised to find all these additional problems with the Z that weren't disclosed in the ad or during a phone conversation.  I realize this is a 40+ year old car and will have some problems, but is $35,000 too much?  This gentleman has owned the car for 3 years where he purchased it from a classic car dealer in Clearwater FL.  Any insight you may have will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Mike