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Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag

« on: December 26, 2019, 03:44:19 PM »

Sorry I have not followed up on this. Yep, it was at the 2016 Nat's and I brought it as a conversation piece along with my unfinished 68 convertible. I think I did offer to sell it to one guy who passed on a great deal and story.

When I picked this up I removed the partial vin from the trunk (axle hump) and cowl as well as the TT. I did not want to be towing around a rental trailer full of partial cars for 1100 miles and have some overzealous POPO turn it into GTA. This was an eBay purchase, the owner lived in FL, the parts were in OK and everything was heading to SC. I had no title or even a bill of sale. All I had was a printout from my computer showing an eBay transaction. Call me paranoid, but I mailed the vins and TT home.

I have the cowl back to the shifter opening (Anything that showed color), the sub-frame with brakes, as well as the partial vins and TT. It proudly resides on the wall of my buddy's shop who likes to tell everyone he's storing a DANA for a friend. If there becomes a legal way to resurrect the vin plate I'd love to see this come back to life as a Safety (Tangerine) Orange Z/28, but for now it's just another internet story.

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General Discussion / Re: Another 67 coupe bites the dust

« on: December 21, 2016, 04:14:06 AM »

With the vin and tag gone good chance it's alive!

And probably as a Z28 or L78!

For future searches, 123377N24

With the vin and tag gone good chance it's alive!

And probably as a Z28 or L78!

For future searches, 123377N247535 or 124377N247535

Ed

And that's why I posted this. I figured someone would be able to decipher the vin and could document  the body being taken off the market.

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General Discussion / Re: JohnZ, say it ain't so?

« on: December 20, 2016, 05:32:59 AM »

I know I've used information he's contributed and has given me input on a few occasions. I'll always be grateful for his generous sharing his knowledge. Prayers to him and his family.

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General Discussion / Another 67 coupe bites the dust

« on: December 20, 2016, 04:28:10 AM »

Actually, it bit the dust in 1980. I'm just laying it to rest. I just pulled a 67 coupe out of the woods. It was totaled in 1980 and has been sitting since. It belonged to the cousin of the gentleman whose property I pulled it from. A little bit more than a shell, I'm told it was a 67 RS 327 4 speed car. Of course the trim tag was long gone as well as the vin tag in the dash. I removed the heater core and found the hidden vin 7N247535. Not sure if it was White or light yellow. At least some of it will continue on in a 68 coupe I'm trying to resurrect.

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Originality / Re: 68 RS rocker paint process questions

« on: April 29, 2016, 02:13:43 AM »

This link has some past history. Th rockers were painted by Fisher and the fenders painted by Chevy. Sometimes the black edge between the rockers and fenders didn't match up.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11366.msg89502#msg89502

This link covers the process:
http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#BlackoutPaint


Mike

Thanks Mike! Reply #7 was most helpful for 68. From the pictures I could discern:

The doors were only masked on the exterior and around the pinched edge, any overspray that got behind the door settled where it may.
The fenders were masked and sprayed exterior only
Both front and rear wheelwells were masked and didn't get any overspray
Body color extends under the sill plate and the transition seam was more on the horizontal surfaces than the vertical ones

Other things that will be helpful is the cut on the bright wheel well trim is different for the RS and the base of the door striker is body color and not all bare metal.

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Originality / 68 RS rocker paint process questions

« on: April 29, 2016, 12:03:45 AM »

My shop has questions about how to proceed with the RS rocker paint.

We've already established that the paint is applied through the middle of the drilled holes for the trim before the trim is mounted. We've also established that it's done before the fenders go on. So:

Does anyone have the steps for painting the lower rocker panels the semi-gloss black?
How well is it masked?
Does the bottom of the backside of the door get painted completely black as well or is it only overspray?
If before fenders go on, how much of backside of lower fender gets painted?

Thanks for any assistance anyone can offer.[/color]

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Originality / Re: GM Heritage Center Documentation / Underbody color

« on: October 13, 2015, 11:38:41 AM »

I've read though this a few times and am trying to summarize as this would apply to may car which is at the "paint the underside stage". So, the consensus here is 68 Norwood car would have a gray primer bottom with primer showing through approximately 20% of the final black corrosion coat. The 20% is made up of around the lower firewall, tunnel, over the rear axle and toward the rear valence/and back end under the gas tank. Instead of spraying a Hammerite coating, if I were to spray a 30% gloss black coat to simulate, then after that, sprayed color and let the color overspray fall where it may, it should be on track as showing something considered technically correct. (Or at least an acceptable attempt   )

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag

« on: December 01, 2014, 12:14:47 AM »

Every time this one pops up, it makes me want to resurrect the one I got. Really cool color, really cool car.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-1968-camaro-z-28-z-28-302-v-8-4-speed-muncie-m-21-manual-custom-paint-/311187009329?forcerrptr=true&hash=item487430ef31&item=311187009329&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#ht_41399wt_1107

Funny how a 3 Owner car now becomes a 1 owner car.

Here's the listing from ebay a little more than a year ago when it was a 2 owner car- $50,000.

HELLO,THIS ONE OF A KIND CAR,1968 Z28 CAMARO, IS UP FOR SALE BY MY MOTHER IN LAW. MY WIFES FATHER PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR AND THIS WAS HIS PRIDE AND JOY SINCE IT WAS NEW. I AM LISTING  IT FOR HER ,SO IF ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME AND I WILL TRY TO GET ANSWERS AS FAST AS I CAN FROM HER.

FIRST OFF ,THIS IS A 2 OWNER CAR,MY FATHER IN LAW BOUGHT THIS CAR IN 1968 WITH ONLY 100 OR SO MILES ON IT.DONT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY WHY THE FIRST OWNER HAD TO SELL IT.

THIS CAR WAS APPRAISED BY JERRY MACNEISH-CAMARO HI-PO INC. ELDERSBURG MARYLAND.CERTIFIED APPRAISER ,IAAA ID#1007319906   WWW.Z28CAMARO.COM         HE IS ALSO A CERTIFIED DIAMOND JUDGE,AMERICAN CAMARO ASSOC.,TECH ADVISOR,INTER. CAMARO CLUB

SPECS :    VIN# 124378N409142

                  BUILD DATE: 04A          NOR#: 108641       TRIM CODE: 712

                  ENGINE: V0308MO ASSM DATE,18N409142 DECK,3914678 BLK,CAST C18,ORIG 302

                  TRANS: P8C21 ASSM DATE,660 CASE,18N409142,MUNCIE 4 SPD,ORIG

                  REAR AXLE: BV0321G ASSM DATE,12 BOLT,4:10 POSI,DATE B298,860NF HOUSING,ORIG

                  DOCUMENTATION: PROTECT O PLATE,WINDOW STICKER,PURCHASED NEW FROM GRABIAK CHEVY,NEW ALEXANDRIA PA

                  PAINT COND: EXCELL ORIG ,SPECIAL ORDER WITH FACTORY STRIPE DELETE,TANGERINE ORANGE

                  INT COND: EXCELL ORIG,BLACK,STANDARD BUCKET SEATS,ONE OF THE NICEST ORIG THAT IVE SEEN-JERRY

                  ENGINE BAY: VERY CLEAN AND ORIG, SURVIVOR QUALITY,MINOR MAINT ISSUES,SMOG REMOVED

                  UNDER CARRIAGE: EXCELL ORIG FLOORS,PAINTED AND TOUCHED UP,NO RUST,NEED GD CLEANING

THIS 68 CAMARO HAS BEEN CERT BY CAMARO HI PO. ACCORDING TO OUR DATA BASE AND HISTORIC CHEVY RECORDS,THIS CAR IS AN ORIG Z28 302-290 HORSE,4 SPD MUNCIE TRANS,12 BOLT REAR. THE CAMARO ,DRIVE TRAIN AND TRIM TAG ARE CERT.AS REAL AND AUTHENTIC.THE INT AND EXT. COLORS ARE CORRECT AND MATCH THE TRIM ID TAG . SUMMARY,THIS CAR FALLS INTO THE ALL ORIG SURVIVORS CATEGORY.ONLY 7,199 1968 Z28S WERE MADE MAKING IT VERY COLLECTABLE. ALL DRIVE TRAIN STAMPINGS MATCH ALL ORIG 68 STAMPINGS IN THE CAMARO DATA BASE. LOW MILEAGE Z28S ARE RARE! WHAT MAKE THIS Z28 EXT RARE IS YHE SPECIAL ORDER TANGERINE PAINT AND STRIPE DELETE. TO DATE ,I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANOTHER 1968  Z28 LIKE THIS CAR. THIS IS ONE OF A KIND X28. ORIG MILES 22220.

THIS IS PRINTED ON THE APPRAISAL REPORT.

YOU CAN GET JERRY MACNEISH CREDENTIALS FROM THE WEBSITE MENTIONED ABOVE

 

ISSUES WITH CAR PER JERRY: HOOD PAD ADDED,SMOG REMOVED,HURST SHIFTER REPLACED ORIG MUNCIE SHIFTER,RADIATOR HAS BEEN RE-CORED,UPPER RAIL IS NOT CORRECT,REPLACEMENT STARTER,SOME MINOR SPRAY TOUCH UP UNDERNEATH-NEEDS GD CLEANING,FUEL TANK NEEDS CLEANED,CAR NEEDS A GARDNER CONCOURS EXHAUST SYSTEM-DOES HAVE NEW ONE ON IT IN THE PAST YEAR-I THINK MY FATHER IN LAW USED YEAR ONE???,,LOWER REAR VALANCE MINOR DENT,TIP OF RADIO MAST IS MISSING,RIGHT SIDE RUBBER COWL AREA PLUG MISSING-STILL AVAIL FROM GM, ENGINE HOSES AND CLAMPS HAVE BEEN CHANGE

CAR DOES NEED A NEW MASTER BRAKE CYLINDER,AND HAS SOME SCRATCHES AND STONE CHIPS AND A FEW SMALL DENTS-AGAIN THIS CAR IS A SURVIVOR AND 45 YEARS OLD,BUT WELL WORTH IT AND 1 OF A KIND!!

OPTIONS: A02 TINTED WINDSHIELD,D80 SPOILER EQUIP,G80 POSI-4:10 GEARS,J52 POWER DISC BRAKES,M21 MUNCIE 4-SPD TRANS,U63 AM RADIO,Z21 TRIM GROUP,Z23 SPECIAL; INT GROUP,Z28 SPECIAL ENGINE AND EQUIP PACKAGE,1001HA SPECIAL ORDER PAINT

COMPONENT DATA: ORIG 9078 BRAKE BOOSTER DATED 89TH DAY OF 1968,HIDDEN VIN STAMP IN COWL AREA ORIG,ORIG "OD" RADIATOR DATED C,111467 DISTRIBUTOR,DATED 8B8,1100814 ALTERNATOR,DATED 8C22,VOLTAGE REG DATED 8D,FAN CLUTCH DATED 2-1-68,SIDE MIRROR 8DM17,CARB 4053 DATED 833,BUMPER JACK DATED 8C, DF WHEEL DATES,LARGE FONT LETTERS EARLY STYLE WHEELS, WINDSHIELD DATED VZ, DEC. 1967, DRIVERS DOOR,XX FEB 1968, PASS DOOR YZ OCT 1967, RIGHT SIDE 1/4 WINDOW XX FEB 1968, LEFT SIDE 1/4 WINDOW OCT 1967, REAR WINDOW LX,MAR 1968

I BELEIVE THAT MY WIFES FATHER STILL HAS THE ORIG TIRES THAT CAME WITH THE CAR.

Now Listed as $159,000:

1968 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 – The Real Deal

Are you looking for a collector vehicle that will garner attention and admiration from all who see it? Are you a Camaro enthusiast searching for your Holy Grail car? Stop searching – we found it for you, and it’s right here in our showroom at Blue Marlin Motors USA!

This is an original, documented, one owner 1968 Camaro Z/28. How do we know it’s one owner, you ask? The original Protect-o-Plate warranty card and book are still with this car.

The VIN of this rare Camaro is 124378N409412.

The block casting number is 3914678, which authenticates the engine block as one belonging to a 302 cubic inch 290 horsepower V8 intended for a 1968 Camaro Z/28. The engine deck, as you can see in the photos, is stamped with a partial VIN stamp that reads 18N409412, verifying that this DZ 302 engine belongs in this particular 1968 Camaro Z/28.

The Muncie M21 4-speed manual transmission mated to the engine is also original to the car. Its assembly date is P8C21, it sports a “660” case, and again the partial VIN of 18N409142 is stamped into the case as well. The 12-bolt posi-traction rear end has original 4.10 gears and an assembly date code of BV0321G, a casting date of B298, and a housing number of 860NF. It, too, is original to the car.

What really sets this car apart from the pack, aside from the fact that it’s only got 22,220 original miles, is its paint. The paint code was a special order, as evidenced by the “1001HA” code on the window sticker, as well as the “- -“designation for paint on the car’s original trim tag. This special order car was ordered and painted in a special hue called “Tangerine orange.” In addition to that, it is a real factory stripe delete car, and the paint on this car is original.

This car has been certified by Jerry MacNeish of Camaro Hi-Performance, INC – known worldwide as the authority on the 1967-1969 Camaro Z/28. It is a true survivor Camaro. The only changes from the day this car left the factory during the first week of April 1968 are minor. There is a Hurst shifter in between the bucket seats, and the smog pump, long known as a failure item and a concern on these cars, was removed sometime early in its life. Everything else is date-code correct for the car, making this quite possibly the most original Z/28 Camaro you will ever see.

A complete list of the codes will be below this description for your review.

If you want to add this piece of history to your collection, come see it in person here in our showroom. Blue Marlin Motors is close to Palm Beach International airport, and we’ll be happy to help you make arrangements to see the car from anywhere in the world.

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-Team @ Blue Marlin Motors USA

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Originality / Re: Early 1968 Z/28 original tires?

« on: November 04, 2014, 10:43:20 PM »

If a SS got this option, what would the spare tire be?

It has to match the other 4 road wheels.

Thanks, sorry I wasn't more clear. I'm sure the spare would be a 15" if that's what you mean by "match", but would it be a regular or rally rim. In otherwords, did P28 include 5 rally rims & 5 RWL tires or would it have been a 15" regular rim whitewall spare?

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Originality / Re: Early 1968 Z/28 original tires?

« on: November 04, 2014, 03:48:53 AM »

If a SS got this option, what would the spare tire be?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag

« on: September 07, 2013, 06:33:10 PM »

I thought the orange from the factory was from the GM truck fleet line .?.  It's that what Dana used?

Thanks for the lead- it lead to finding this link:

http://corvettes-musclecars.com/Supercars/68Dana

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag

« on: September 05, 2013, 11:51:06 AM »

From what i find, that color was not available for other Chevy models that year? I wonder where it came from and why. Also, the eBay car is a Norwood, and mine is LOS built 8 months apart.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag

« on: September 05, 2013, 03:48:44 AM »

Hmm, maybe it was one of these. Same trim tag.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-RARE-1968-CAMARO-Z28-WITH-TANGERINE-ORANGE-AND-STRIPE-DELETE-/281160200929?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item41767432e1&vxp=mtr#ht_1210wt_1064

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Restoration / Foams vs Stitching

« on: February 07, 2013, 02:10:39 AM »

I've got PUI 68 Deluxe Houndstooth seatcovers and ACI Deluxe Foams. At the base of the seatback foam the distance across is 12 inches for the channel that the hogrings go in to hold the seatcover tails. The base of the back of the seatcover tails that the rings attach to are 11 inches across. Which is correct the 12 inches for the foam or the 11 inches for the seat tails?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag

« on: January 10, 2013, 12:21:19 PM »

After a week delay, I'm finally here.