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Decoding/Numbers / VIN tag problem?

« on: November 19, 2024, 04:11:11 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256721859880

Stated VIN 124379N563499

“This 1969 Camaro Convertible has undergone a meticulous restoration..."

Not a convertible VIN

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 ZL1 - # 55

« on: November 15, 2024, 10:49:04 PM »

Proofreaders on strike?

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...tag swap

« on: November 05, 2024, 12:16:58 AM »

https://www.hemmings.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-221985

124379N552560

VIN was final assembled on or about December 2, 1968. Car has a 08E body tag; 5th week August 1969.

One or both tags are not original to the car, hidden VINs may not match.

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Originality / Re: 1969 door jamb screw questions

« on: November 04, 2024, 12:42:02 PM »

Phosphate, in my experience.

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Restoration / Re: 69 Copo MN Engine paint marks and crayon markings

« on: November 03, 2024, 02:52:55 AM »

Engines with both chrome rocker covers and aluminum intake were completely covered during paint. Should be no orange paint along the intake.

Notice the silver rocker cover gaskets, correct with chrome rocker covers on a BB.

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Mild Modifications / Re: 1969 RS convertible disc brake conversion

« on: October 26, 2024, 07:28:36 PM »

On an RS, the actuator mounting bracket and shield had marginal tire clearance in production applications. Particularly on the LH side, was not unusual to see a hole worn through the shield. Some of the aftermarket disc brake kits increase the front track slightly.

The production drum brake steering knuckle has a mounting boss that may need to be trimmed.

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1969 - Orphans / Re: Late 1969 DZ Short Block V0929DZ (Sept 29, 1969)

« on: October 23, 2024, 12:34:13 PM »

The 1969 Camaro had two production runs due to the delayed launch of the 1970 Camaro.

1st run was Aug 1968-July 11, 1969. 2nd was August 7, 1969-November 7, 1969.

The block in the photo is from the 2nd run and the partial VIN is within the range for the date.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...another repro body tag?

« on: October 22, 2024, 11:52:47 AM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/146118919060

124379N706574...state-issued VIN label. N706574 was final assembled on or about October 29, 1969.

Body tag has an error and shows a 720-orange interior. Car has the 712 black custom interior. The RH dash woodgrain included with custom interior is missing. Has the 1st design kick panels last used in production January 1969, technically incorrect shift knob and 6000/7000 rpm tach.

No mention or photos of drive train stampings.

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General Discussion / Re: Ignition coil

« on: October 17, 2024, 11:57:46 AM »

1969 application beyond 9/68 would be 270 B-R.

Dan

Only the 3,500 or so Z/28s built with the ducted hood used the 1115270 coil & bracket assembly.

Z/28s built with the standard production hood used the 1115298 coil & bracket assembly.

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General Discussion / Re: HELP - Can you find your old car with a VIN search anywhere?

« on: October 07, 2024, 01:37:45 PM »

The sites out there are designed for the later style 17-character VIN.

You could start by requesting a DMV registration search in the state the car was sold in. The state may not comply or redact names from the docs. If the car has not been registered for some time, it drops off current records. Generally speaking, DMV records are only maintained for 10 years. Another issue, not unusual for people who buy collector cars to not title or register them. The current owner of record may have sold it years ago.

Back in the day, salvage businesses were not required to report scrapped VINs as they are now.

If you have a contact with NCIC access they could run it for you. Law enforcement can and did do that way back when, those days are long over.

I have been watching online and auctions for over 10 years; the CRG has a db of 1st Gen Camaro VIN info. That VIN is not in any of the records I have.

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Decoding/Numbers / Caveat Emptor...tag swap?

« on: October 03, 2024, 11:23:21 AM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205025081888

124379N548352

VIN was final assembled at the Norwood, Ohio plant on or about November 26, 1968. Car has a 10E Van Nuys body tag; 5th week October 1968.

During the build, the top of the dash board structure was replaced. The VIN tag was removed and re-installed. 

One or both tags are not original to the car, hidden VINs may not match.

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 ZL1 REAR SPOILER

« on: September 29, 2024, 02:28:48 AM »

Yes.

Returned to Chevrolet/Norwood May 24,1969. Re-invoiced to Jim Rathmann Chevrolet, Melbourne FL along with #52. Both shipped to Australia. #33 was road raced, now restored to original racing appearance. Has the engine from #52.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1969_Bob_Jane_Chevrolet_Camaro_ZL-1_Race_Car.jpg

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 ZL1 REAR SPOILER

« on: September 24, 2024, 03:29:19 PM »

None of the 50 cars ordered by Fred Gibb Chevrolet were ordered or built with D80. A few have been retrofitted.

At least 12 of the other 19 ZL-1s were built with D80. In some cases, original paperwork exists for verification. #61 has retrofitted D80. #69 has its original D80 body tag.

#3 was built [3/4/69] with D80 and the 1st design [59”] rear spoiler. 17 of the other 19 ZL-1s were built after the 2nd design [61.5"] was completely implemented.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro rear wheel well undercoating

« on: September 22, 2024, 04:09:45 PM »

Nice, but not all of them were finished that way. In my experience, there was some black paint coverage along the frame rails. It's common to find body color paint under the rear axle bumper brackets.

Van Nuys had a 'blackout' paint process late in assembly. Among other areas, they coated the tailpipes.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z/28 Firewall markings

« on: September 21, 2024, 11:05:19 PM »

It's likely the final assembly sequence #.