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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 3917291 info/help

« on: June 23, 2024, 08:52:20 PM »

The pad stampings are not factory original. I wanted to see a clear picture of the pad with zero paint anywhere on the pad to see if there is any hint of original stampings.

If you can't bore scope the heads, the only way to tell more is to take them off.

To the naked eye can make out where it was, but nothing is visible to me.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 3917291 info/help

« on: June 20, 2024, 11:34:35 PM »

Pad # is 51893 A 3187 and looks like no factory stamping letters ive ever seen. This motor was purchased with a 32 ford project by my friends father in the early 90’s. It was purchased from the widow of the guy who started the project. Motor was in bag from machine shop (no paperwork or anything) until the 32 was finished around 2005. I purchased it from him with about 1500 miles in 2007 as he went a different direction with his 32 ford.  I’ll work on getting the date code on block. It’s stamped 010 & 020 in bellhousing which from what I’ve found is the higher nickel content block. Also that pad stamp could be that it was rebuilt 5/18/93, or 3/1/87 maybe? although the 93 date I think would be too late. Pics attached are from 2007 so not the best.

Thanks!

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 3917291 info/help

« on: June 20, 2024, 01:43:54 AM »

Couple of other pictures back from 2007 when I put the motor in, I haven’t had the intake off since so it’s the only ones I got showing heads. And if anybody can tell me what that engine pad stamping means? I assume whoever rebuilt it stamped their own serial numbers maybe? Picture showing the block casting number was from before I painted the motor

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Decoding/Numbers / 3917291 info/help

« on: June 20, 2024, 12:52:17 AM »

Curious if anyone can tell me what kind of work may have been done on these. Upgraded springs or whatever can be seen? I’ve never had the heads off so I don’t know if they’re the 1.94 or 2.02’s. Was told the engine was like 12 or 13:1 which I don’t think is the case. Lower end looked like stock rods/crank from what a crappy borescope showed. Were threaded studs ever factory? Other than the stock looking rockers and pushrods, anything stand out to somebody who knows what they’re looking at? Im in my mid 40’s so these are a little bit before my time 

I know they’re not the best pictures. I was more concentrated on the casting numbers. March 68 casting

Thanks!
Jeff

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: June 20, 2024, 12:36:30 AM »

So an updates on the car, it’s been awhile. Couple pics of current status.
Also, one of my brothers chased down the original front end. He got it from guy who purchased front end from the car buyer. Drove out of state to get it. Made me an awesome Christmas gift. He had to source some park lamps, and the bumper. Headlamp surrounds were gone so he fabricated them into picture frames of a couple old burnout tickets from my father in the 70’s

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: September 01, 2022, 09:34:31 PM »

If anyone was wondering it went to a family friend. $15k cash w/o title or keys in early May. Car already stripped down and will be getting an LS I’m told

Thanks for everyone’s help!

Jeff

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: April 23, 2022, 04:56:09 AM »

She’s online. CL Massachusetts. About 150 emails in 24 hours. Have 6 between 12-14, 1 friend of a friend willing to go 15, and 1 at 19.9, have my doubts on the last one but he’s been in contact since about 5 minutes after it went up. Put up about 500 photos of anyone wants to check it out.

Thanks all,
Jeff

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 23, 2022, 05:43:46 PM »

Yeah I caught the springs also but figured them for a swap when putting in the 9” rear. Going to see if I can get any #’s off of them

Thanks!

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 23, 2022, 04:48:21 AM »

Read this...Joe

http://www.camaros.org/coolingsystems.shtml

I had, and just did again. Not sure where the radiator is from because it was vertical flow if I recall when I opened the cap. Assume the cap is on top as opposed to ends due to that? Not sure what its out of.

I missed this part

"All first-generation Camaro radiators were manufactured by the Harrison Radiator Division of GM and were of the cross-flow design type (as opposed to earlier vertical flow designs)"

Thanks

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 23, 2022, 02:09:43 AM »

$15K in today's market. Solid body, good original interior. But you need to get the title.
Does it have 1 or 2 fuel lines? Looks like front drum brakes.

Couple other things I don't remember that made me lean towards it being a 307/327 that I cannot recall right now.

Recalled one.
The radiator, I saw images somewhere showing this radiator (noting the " metal cap" that almost looks like a tank on top, filler neck position and vent tube angle) only coming in 327/307 manual, no ac cars... Of course cannot find it now since I've been spending hours scouring the internet the last week. Could have been a barn find video or something too. Don't see any on this site in the cooling section that look similar. Anybody know?

Have to take a closer look and see if I can find tag w date code on it, didn't see one at first glance. Not sure its even original being that its got a big block, but it does not have trans hookups, and seems to bolt up proper.

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 23, 2022, 01:03:43 AM »

$15K in today's market. Solid body, good original interior. But you need to get the title.
Does it have 1 or 2 fuel lines? Looks like front drum brakes.

1 Fuel line
Drum brake
manual steer

Couple other things I don't remember that made me lean towards it being a 307/327 that I cannot recall right now. Body dated first week January so not sure if that would be considered early, or late as far as it being a 307/327

I keep forgetting to look for the driver side exhaust mount (not really sure where it is on the frame, but assume it would be obvious), but everything tells me this was a base v8 car. Not sure what the other dead give aways are. Next time over going to drop the tank to see if there's a build sheet, i know its a pipe dream, but tank needs to come down anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 22, 2022, 03:41:42 PM »

Got it out of the garage and gave it a bath to get the first layer off. Started hitting the drivers side a little with just a damp cloth. Interior seems like it will clean up...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6a2ji2nlnj2w0ju/AABXUUxz6_7OOHtwnkkZU_zna?dl=0

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 19, 2022, 01:15:38 AM »

Did you buy it? Once it’s cleaned up, it will look like it’s worth more and the family will probably think you should pay more.

I'm doing what is best for my mother. She needs the cash. It's counter intuitive to improve it but, if its worth more than I can afford, I won't buy it. It sucks, I'd love to have it for lots of reasons.

I basically could afford it for 5k. I figure would probably be at least another 5k to get the brakes, suspension, wheels/rubber, exhaust etc sorted out that it would need to make it streetable. If its worth 6 or 8, maybe ill get the family discount. But it would honestly mean more to me to clean it inside and out, get the carb rebuilt and get it running if it turns out its worth 10 as is. I'd rather try to get her a little more by having a running car to sell. I'd at least be able to play around with it to get it running before sending it off. Like I said, it sucks. I'd love to have it.

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 18, 2022, 10:15:59 PM »

Think the link I put up yesterday was no good for the pics... link below should work

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pa4ioobj704s58v/AAANDki6T2qoOfihg4Nw0GA0a?dl=0

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General Discussion / Re: Valuation of "Barn" Find?

« on: March 18, 2022, 07:29:26 PM »

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pa4ioobj704s58v/AAANDki6T2qoOfihg4Nw0GA0a?dl=0

Put these up last night but was too tired to type anything. Apparently my "real" camera likes to focus on what you are not trying to focus on in most of the photos. Should have stuck with my phone camera.

Had a couple buddies over and got the car up on jack stands. Basically just got it vacuumed inside and out and tried to get more #'s from engine, rear end etc. From what I have seen, only rust issue is some slight bubbling below the rear windshield trim, and some paint bubbling on the trunk lid. Couple random spots on rockers and quarters where paint is peeling, but it all looks to be minor and on the surface. Is there any places on these cars where rust/rot is hidden? Anywhere to look in particular?

No build sheet under back seat which isn't a surprise. Going to get the tank dropped and see if its up there, which I'm sure it won't be. I would guess the tank needed to be lowered when the in line fuel pump was added, but maybe not. Looks like it has been there for ever.

No tag on rear end, but it seems to be a C7AW-E ford 9" Going to try to get the casting #'s cleaned up.

Going to get some roller skates for it and get it outside and give it a bath inside and out this weekend. I really think it is going to clean up way better than I anticipated after a couple test spots in side and out.

Intake 3866848 (3866948 maybe?) Seems to be a run of the mill intake, thoughts?

Thanks everyone!