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General Discussion / Re: Updated exterior page
« on: December 13, 2016, 09:32:07 PM »
Very good write-up. Thanks to all involved.
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General Discussion / Re: JohnZ, say it ain't so?
« on: December 13, 2016, 09:29:47 PM »
My thoughts are with John and his family.
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Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded)
« on: December 11, 2016, 09:18:17 AM »
Kurt, do you mean they were scheduled on demand, or scheduled in batches for inventory? I recall a much older thread where JohnZ (IIRC) said that CE assemblies were scheduled on weekends because they couldn't be handled in the same way as fully dressed production line engines, but he also mentioned that they were assembled according to GM forecast requirements.
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Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded)
« on: December 10, 2016, 02:53:34 PM »
Buddy do you have a P-o-P that reflects your car being fitted with a CE under warranty?
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Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded)
« on: December 10, 2016, 12:22:54 PM »
From another thread here, a member sent me the pictures below, of a CE block with the following dates:
Pad Stamp: CE9A24283
Casting Number: 3932386
Casting Date: J 12 8
This was very interesting for me, because the assembly stamp is only 5 numbers earlier than a CE block that I have, with the following numbers:
Assembly Stamp: CE9A24288
Casting Number: 3956618
Casting Date: A 9 9
So comparing the numbers, there is approximately 3 months between casting dates (October 12, 1968 to January 9, 1969), yet the Flint assembly sequence numbers stamped on the pads are only 5 units apart.
Previous thread contributors have confirmed they have seen CE9, CE9A, CE9B and CE9C prefixes for Flint V8 assembly. Based on the block of sequential numbers allocated to that plant, this equates to over 90,000 CE blocks for the 1969 model year. With this number of service blocks, there can't have actually been a 3-month gap between 5 sequential units being machined and assembled. One possibility is that the 618 block was machined shortly after casting and the 386 casting remained on the rack until January of '69 before it was pulled out and machined just prior to the 618, but another possibility is that a quantity of raw castings was routinely set aside for CE applications, and perhaps both of these pictured were assembled some time after casting.
It would be great to get some more data points if anyone else has another block with a reasonably close assembly number.
Pad Stamp: CE9A24283
Casting Number: 3932386
Casting Date: J 12 8
This was very interesting for me, because the assembly stamp is only 5 numbers earlier than a CE block that I have, with the following numbers:
Assembly Stamp: CE9A24288
Casting Number: 3956618
Casting Date: A 9 9
So comparing the numbers, there is approximately 3 months between casting dates (October 12, 1968 to January 9, 1969), yet the Flint assembly sequence numbers stamped on the pads are only 5 units apart.
Previous thread contributors have confirmed they have seen CE9, CE9A, CE9B and CE9C prefixes for Flint V8 assembly. Based on the block of sequential numbers allocated to that plant, this equates to over 90,000 CE blocks for the 1969 model year. With this number of service blocks, there can't have actually been a 3-month gap between 5 sequential units being machined and assembled. One possibility is that the 618 block was machined shortly after casting and the 386 casting remained on the rack until January of '69 before it was pulled out and machined just prior to the 618, but another possibility is that a quantity of raw castings was routinely set aside for CE applications, and perhaps both of these pictured were assembled some time after casting.
It would be great to get some more data points if anyone else has another block with a reasonably close assembly number.
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General Discussion / Re: New member from NJ
« on: December 10, 2016, 06:08:09 AM »
Thanks for sending the pictures. It's J 12 8, so October 12 1968. I'll add the data to the CE block thread shortly.
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General Discussion / Re: New member from NJ
« on: December 10, 2016, 12:08:07 AM »
Yes, please email me and I can resize them and post here.
i'll PM you my email address.
Thanks!
i'll PM you my email address.
Thanks!
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General Discussion / Re: New member from NJ
« on: December 09, 2016, 10:46:25 PM »
Great, thank you!
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General Discussion / Re: New member from NJ
« on: December 09, 2016, 12:48:38 PM »the block stamp number is ce9a24283.That is very close to mine, CE9A24288 - as pictured below. I'd really appreciate it if you could check and confirm your block's casting number, and in particular the casting date, for comparison with mine. I've been keeping notes on 'CE' warranty blocks, and your info would be great to add in. CE stands for 'Chevrolet Engine' BTW, rather than 'Counter Exchange' - more in the drivetrain decoding section via http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#ReplacementEngines
Thanks in advance!
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help with 618 casting number
« on: December 03, 2016, 09:45:16 PM »
An explanation of the 'M' coded block, from CRG's drivetrain decode info:
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"M"-Coded Blocks
There is one exception to the normal block casting date convention that has been observed: some blocks have been seen with "M" cast codes. Research by the Saginaw Metal Casting Operations of GM Powertrain Division has found that these "M" codes are not date codes, but actually a foundry code used to indentify parts that were made to evaluate a casting process change. After evaluating the parts, the blocks would either be destroyed or released into production. There is no way to determine the date an "M"-coded block was poured.
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General Discussion / Re: Sheet Metal Stamping info & ??'s
« on: December 03, 2016, 09:40:59 PM »
I may be missing something, but an 02D car was final-assembled around the end of February 1968, not sure where the 'late 1967 calendar year' fits in, unless you're referring to drivetrain component casting or assembly dates (as opposed to car build date)?
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General Discussion / Re: Sheet Metal Stamping info & ??'s
« on: December 02, 2016, 09:58:57 PM »
That lines up perfectly, I was confused when you said 'late 67 year build' above. My car is 04A and most panels are stamped '12', the original flat hood is '13'.
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General Discussion / Re: Sheet Metal Stamping info & ??'s
« on: December 02, 2016, 08:56:17 AM »
The sheetmetal stamps were for week number, not month. 07 and 08 would be February. What is your car's build date?
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General Discussion / Re: Sheet Metal Stamping info & ??'s
« on: December 01, 2016, 09:48:36 AM »
Here's a thread I started a couple of years ago to try and determine the stamping plant locations:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12764
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12764