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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: gary on December 01, 2024, 02:36:58 PM

Title: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: gary on December 01, 2024, 02:36:58 PM
I am restoring my 69 Z/28 Camaro Fathom Green.  I need to know what color primers were used and in what order.  Were they different for different colors or was the process the same for all colors? 
Thanks
Gary
Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: william on December 01, 2024, 04:27:20 PM
http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: gary on December 03, 2024, 12:33:51 AM
Thank You.  I have read this many times but it doesn't tell what colors were used. Was there a gray surface primer used on all cars? What i have been told was to use a red oxide epoxy primer on bare metal then a gray surface primer then color. Thanks for your help.
I have own this car for 42 years. I would like to do it correctly. Thank You, Gary
Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: william on December 03, 2024, 04:43:25 PM
No one can duplicate the paint process employed on 1st Gen Camaros. Even if you could, you would not be happy with the results. I have seen plenty of original paint 1st gens in my 49 years of the hobby. The process was designed for speed, not a show car finish.

It is not a factor in Legends Judging: "Paint is judged as condition only; and color must match the trim tag. Both show quality paint and paint replicating the original lacquer finish are accepted."

IMHO, the main problem is the clear coat that has to be used on metallic colors. Limit the amount of material on the car. The painter that did our cars would mix base with clear for the top coat, looks far more original. Leave some light orange peel, never clear over the stripes.

Prime System: In the first prime booth, the entire body, inside and out, was manually sprayed with [gray] primer, and confined areas subject to corrosion were given a second coat of heavier primer material; this prime coat was then baked at 390F for 30 minutes.

The second heavier coat was red and limited to the area around and under the rear window.

The interior color areas were masked, and the entire outer body was sprayed with gray primer-surfacer and the body was baked again at 285F for 45 minutes.

The vertical surface of the firewall appears to have little to no primer.

 Undercarriage finish is a separate topic.
Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: gary on December 03, 2024, 09:13:58 PM
Thank you very much.  Gary
Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: PURESS on December 04, 2024, 11:44:45 AM
Hi Gary,
Do you have before pictures and restoration pictures?
Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: 169INDY on December 04, 2024, 05:53:47 PM
Can it also be stated that the "Coverage" Varied from NOR -vs- LOS based on the Conveyer -vs- Tow'veyer systems used at each plant?
or that may effect the underbody topic more so.
Title: Re: Process for painting Fathom Green 69 Z28 (epoxy red oxide, grey surface etc.)
Post by: KurtS on December 04, 2024, 08:09:59 PM
Can it also be stated that the "Coverage" Varied from NOR -vs- LOS based on the Conveyer -vs- Tow'veyer systems used at each plant?
No. You are talking about conveyors that were on the Chevrolet side, not Fisher.