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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Restoration => Topic started by: Figie3596 on October 11, 2024, 03:08:22 PM
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Looking to buy a 69 Z11 350 automatic car and it'd been sitting for awhile. Would like to check with you that the cars looks right I do have a question if the air cleaner is correct. It does not have the gauge package on the console and its a manual top car ill post a few of the pictures I have can you please give me your thoughts. The block pad in front I believe is stamped HB, it needs a restoration I just dont wanna buy a fake. How's the trim tag look? original?? Id love some advice before I go further with it
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Your Question about the Air Cleaner is Spot on. A GM Original "HB" Coded TH350 equipped car would have the "Thermac" Heat riser Valve in the snorkel.
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so the air cleaner is wrong how does the trim tag look ? real? Does that carb look correct?
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should the valve covers be aluminum or are the ones on there correct?
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The is a Pace Car Registry, and posting the VIN here helps as well. There are fraudulent purchases lurking. Pictures of the VIN and engine pad would be great as well.
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From what you can see here do the valve covers, trim tag and carb look correct? I dont have the vin or engine pad info written down yet
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It would probably be in your best interest to hire a qualified appraiser to look at that car in person.
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OK thankscrs been sitting for like 7 years on a trailer with a cover and it isn't running but does turn overweigh a breaker bar. If its real what would you think the value to buy it would be that would be my next step with the owner? I know its hard to judge from a few crummy pictures but just a ball park value? Also did all pace cars have tachs?
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Quote: Also did all pace cars have tachs?
No. Tach & guages were an option...Joe
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thanks Joe-- do the valve covers look correct I also seem them with the finned aluminum ones which is correct?
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thanks Joe-- do the valve covers look correct I also seem them with the finned aluminum ones which is correct?
Steel, painted engine colour is correct. There was never an engine dress package. I've always viewed it as od that the big blocks in SS cars got chrome covers but 350 engine in SS didn't. Z/28s got finned covers in 1969. Chrome steel for 67/68.....Joe
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Thanks for that info the guy wants like mid 30s for it. Just on a hunch is that high low or a good price.
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Thanks for that--I know its hard to say but he wants 35 for the car would you think thats high or fair I have to make a decision this week
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From what I see, it looks real.
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The valve covers, air cleaner and carburetor would be less than the least of my concerns for verification. Any documents and clear pictures of the dash VIN, engine pad stamp and trim tag go a long way for starters.
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Thanks im going back to look at it this week again will get more info
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Ive been looking at 69 Camaros heater hoses and I see that some are going to the heater core in the middle of the car and some have them towards the passenger fender why is that? did it have something to do with the build date it was changed ?
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Small block vs. big block. SB closer to the center, BB closer to the center of the heater box (passenger fender).
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My thoughts are rust and body damage, a 69 convertable with legal tags and title has considerable value but 20k worth of body work would be my big factor. I know where one is about the same shape near me left in an estate but they seem to think they have the holy grail of camaros.
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I looked at the car again today its been about 2 years since I saw it last.( Been trying to buy this for like 4 years) Its been sitting outside and the fenders and quarters were pretty rusted and did have frame rot. A large tree limb fell on top of the car and crushed the convertible top pretty good. They still wanted 35k I left a huge project that im not ready to get involved it. oh well thanks everyone for the help. not meant to be. I get heart broken seeing an original car sitting outside rusting away like that.
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Well that is Discouraging. Languishing. It WILL be Available someday or Vaporized making the remaining more valuable.
Any "LASY" in the Wild photos as it sits?
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it still has to have some value and I like the car but is a huge project to take on, they think its gold , do you think the top bows can be straightened or would they need to be replaced its not crushed flat but pushed dow from a branch. I never took a new picture of it I should of. but after I left maybe I should of offered 20 or 25 your thoughts
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It would still be a major project, but it would give you another 10-15k to work with. If you just want to get in running and on the road, that would go a long way. If you want a complete restoration bringing the car back to original condition, you might need ten times that. It's a financial obligation that only you can determine is feasible for you.
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yes your right thanks im gonna back off it and see if they contact me at all
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The allure of the Pacer I understand, but from your description, the car isn’t worth the price. We all feel sad watching a cool car rot away for whatever reason, but it’s not your car. 35k will get you a driver quality car all day. Move on, go get one, make it your own, and drive happy!
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It's hard to walk away from something so unique but with known frame rot and other unidentified issues I'd be inclined to do so for that price.
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I tryed for a 69Z complete except the motor sitting under some pine trees for years checking in to hear (i am going to fix it up one day). Rust got it and then a tree on it later. Went by later and it and several other cars were gone. Probably all crushed.
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We've all seen this...right?
NOT FOR SALE. GOING TO FIX IT UP ONE DAY.
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Maybe I missed it but, did we ever get to see the VIN or data tag? That ( and getting the price down a bit) to me is the key to whether or not to pursue this vehicle.
Also, is the person buying it a capable mechanic, or body man, or both? Doing all or most of the labor yourself, would bring the cost of a decent restoration to "driver" specs, back into a doable project.
Full concourse 100 point restorations are a whole different game.
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We've all seen this...right?
NOT FOR SALE. GOING TO FIX IT UP ONE DAY.
just as God intended it,cars are made from some minerals taken out of the ground, and from day one do the best to go back where it came from